Open Letter to Tim Cook • Hacker News Board

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by zaphar » Tue, Nov 01, 2016, 5:29 PM UTC

ubernostrum wrote: post #193

zaphar wrote: post #19

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When people who use your products because they are best in class stop using them the clear message is they no longer think they are best in class. Being a fan and using Apple sends very little signal regarding their quality. Being agnostic and using Apple sends a larger signal. Right now the signal seems to be that Apple is no longer making professional class hardware. Fans and status symbol seekers will still want t…

I really do think we're seeing a lot of people who either A) despite furiously posting about how they're "done with Apple" and this was "the last straw", etc. (and doing this at literally every product refresh) are still going to buy iPhones and Macbook laptops, or B) mostly only used a Mac because it was issued to them at work and now are going to demand something different because they think they can make a case ag…

I think A is probably true. But I think you may be wrong on the B. Very few companies that I'm aware of forces someone to use a Mac. If you use one it's because you asked for it. If you stop asking for it you'll get something else.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by greggman » Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 8:08 AM UTC

grzm wrote: post #129

greggman wrote: post #125

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My number one consern was weight. I've been carrying my MBP for the last 3 years working out of coffee shops and co-working spaces. I'm tired of lugging around 4.5 lbs. Especially when there are 2 lbs 15 inch notebooks. Apple lowered the weight .3 lbs to 4.1, still double the lightest 15 incher.

Out of curiosity, what's the lightest 15-incher you refer to? How do they compare in terms of spec? I'm particularly interested in the materials used in construction. Which MBP do you have?

I have a 2014 15" MBP maxed out.

LG makes a 15" 2.1 lbs laptop. The case is made of magnesium alloy. The specs aren't as good as a MBP but that's not really the point. The point is NOT that I want the LG. The point is that it seems possible to make the MBP much lighter.

Examples: An i7 doesn't weigh pounds more than an i5. 32gig of ram does not weight pounds more than 8gig of ram. 2TB SSD does not weigh pounds more than 512GB SSD. I have no idea if a 15" HD-DPI display weighs a lot more than a 15" 1920 display weighs. The LG even has all standard ports 4 USB-A type plugs, HDMI, etc. There was no need to make it thinner and switch to USB-C mini to get the weight down.

So that basically seems to leave battery, second GPU, case, fans, maybe keyboard and display as what's making the MBP stay heavy. I guess I tend to believe the LG with the same specs as the MBP would be at least 1 pound lighter than the current MPB

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by behrangsa » Sat, Nov 05, 2016, 1:23 AM UTC

nodamage wrote: post #114

kornholi wrote: post #108

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Why not LPDDR4 against LPDDR3? LPDDR4 is also more efficient and has better density.

Skylake does not support LPDDR4, nor does Kaby Lake (except with their ultra-low power chips). I don't think we're going to see 32 GB RAM in the ultrabook category until LPDDR4 is supported by Intel in their mobile-class processors. Edit: AnandTech suggests that LPDDR3 is 25-30% more power efficient than DDR4. ( http://www.anandtech.com/show/6326/additional-details-on-mic... )

I have a Dell Precision 5510 that supports up to 32GB of RAM and also has Skylake Mobile Xeon. Alas, it is plagued with tons of issues.