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Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 8:42 PM UTC

cableshaft wrote: post #229

fail2fail2ban wrote: post #211

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IBM advertises jobs yet when qualified people show up, they are rejected. Either it's a way to look like they are reaching out to the public to satisfy the government so they can then go hire outside the US; or it's a way to let insiders get those positions after the applying public are rejected, all IMO. When I was in there, 99.999% of the people I met came in through acquisitions, not applying for a job and getting…

A recruiter for IBM contacted me, actually. I didn't respond to an ad.

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Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise

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Post by Razengan » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 12:59 AM UTC

nicky0 wrote: post #174

misterdata wrote: post #140

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The Dock? Why would they completely rewrite the Dock?

Apparently the Dock team just really liked Swift and wanted to go all-in on it. (According to Federighi.) (I believe the Dock "app" also encompasses Mission Control, Spaces and all that sort of desktop interaction wizardry.)

> (I believe the Dock "app" also encompasses Mission Control, Spaces and all that sort of desktop interaction wizardry.)

It does. I think it also handles Cmd-Tab. I remember seeing a bug now and then in these things (task switching and desktop spaces etc.) which gets fixed by relaunching the Dock process.

Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise

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Post by WayneBro » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 1:22 PM UTC

nicky0 wrote: post #230

WayneBro wrote: post #204

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Assembly is complicated too. I want it sugarcoated most of the time though. There are very few times when I need to drop down into assembly.

I don't accept assembly as a valid analogy.

I don't accept your non-acceptance of assembly as a valid analogy except I'll actually tell you the reason why - you didn't give any reasoning whatsoever.

This is a perfectly valid analogy. Visible characters in a strings are to Unicode code points as high-level functions in high-level code are to assembly commands.

Furthermore, even without using an analogy I'm quite comfortable in saying, again, that I want Strings sugarcoated because 99.9% of the time I don't give a fuck about some bullshit ivory tower corrected view of things that makes the common scenario more difficult than it needs to be.

Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise

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Post by Razengan » Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 3:37 AM UTC

For those that missed it, IBM showed some promising stuff in the "Going Server-side with Swift Open Source" talk this WWDC:

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/415/

Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Sep 30, 2016, 9:14 AM UTC

WayneBro wrote: post #233

nicky0 wrote: post #230

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I don't accept assembly as a valid analogy.

I don't accept your non-acceptance of assembly as a valid analogy except I'll actually tell you the reason why - you didn't give any reasoning whatsoever. This is a perfectly valid analogy. Visible characters in a strings are to Unicode code points as high-level functions in high-level code are to assembly commands. Furthermore, even without using an analogy I'm quite comfortable in saying, again, that I want Strings…

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