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Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by sp332 »

wongarsu wrote: post #221
sp332 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Total "PC" units are shrinking, and Windows PC sales are shrinking compared to Mac computer sales, and phones are exploding compared to PCs. What comparison could you make where Windows PC sales are "up"?

>Total "PC" units are shrinking source? Total units sold are shrinking (or steady, depending on your definition of PC and who's numbers you are using), but total units in operation is much closer to describing Microsofts market and hard to measure. >Windows PC sales are shrinking compared to Mac computer sales Macs are personal computers in every sense except marketing speak. The competitor selling better isn't a sig…

Macs are personal computers in every sense except marketing speak.

Right, but the comment I'm replying to 'way up there is about MS annoying its customers to the point that they leave.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by throwaway3349 »

fpgaminer wrote: post #99

With Windows 10 doing things like this, and Windows 7 being aggressively deprecated, I decided I finally wanted to ditch Windows as my daily driver. It was good timing, then, that I watched the "7 Gamers 1 CPU" video from LinuxTechTips, which showed me how to do it without sacrificing gaming. Most everything I use runs in Linux, and for the few things that don't I can spin up a VM. But there's the caveat that is as o…

piggybacking on top comment. I have yet to work through this process, but there's this write-up for doing this in Ubuntu I found a few weeks ago:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2266916

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by dingaling »

ben174 wrote: post #192
treehau5 wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon Kindle does the exact same thing with their "Special Offers"

Only on the Kindle With Special Offers which is priced lower than the standard Kindle. A way more upfront approach. It's literally in the title of the product that you are purchasing something with advertising on the lock screen.

> Only on the Kindle With Special Offers which is priced lower than the standard Kindle.

There is also advertising on-by-default on the full-priced Kindles, but they call it 'Recommended Content' . It takes-up a chunk of the home screen.

Easy enough to disable but it's still advertising.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by JoshuaRedmond »

fpgaminer wrote: post #99

With Windows 10 doing things like this, and Windows 7 being aggressively deprecated, I decided I finally wanted to ditch Windows as my daily driver. It was good timing, then, that I watched the "7 Gamers 1 CPU" video from LinuxTechTips, which showed me how to do it without sacrificing gaming. Most everything I use runs in Linux, and for the few things that don't I can spin up a VM. But there's the caveat that is as o…

The link to the video by LinusTechTips for anyone interested[0]. He actually had a heck of a time getting it working fully with all 7 graphics cards, as shutting a VM down wouldn't correctly release the card's resources (apparently an AMD-specific issue, but they denied it[1]), causing him to have to do a full reboot of the whole system every time one VM needed a restart[1].

[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXOaCkbt4lI (14:57)

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lThX7UovKCc (1:35:15 - really long stream of him disassembling it live, so forgive me for not finding exactly where he said each thing).

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by miffe »

driverdan wrote: post #228
miffe wrote: post #165

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I tried this a while back. My results can be seen at http://miffe.org/bench/ The largest problem is that the NVIDIA driver refuses to work when it detects that it's in a VM. The workaround is to hide the VM status for the guest os, by using -cpu host,kvm=off and disabling the tweaks that makes windows work better (hv_time,hv_relaxed,hv_vapic).

A better workaround would be to buy AMD GPUs.

Thats my plan. I got the GTX 980 for free, so I'm using until the next gen AMD cards are released.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by delecti »

HiggySmalls wrote: post #195
treehau5 wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon Kindle does the exact same thing with their "Special Offers"

Yeah but you get the benefit of paying a discounted price for a Kindle with "special offers"

> Yeah, but you get the benefit of paying a discounted price for Windows 10 with the free upgrade.

I think this is somewhat less intrusive than the Kindle Special Offers, which is already not very intrusive, but both are still advertising.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by SeriousM »

sp4ke wrote: post #209
fpgaminer wrote: post #99

With Windows 10 doing things like this, and Windows 7 being aggressively deprecated, I decided I finally wanted to ditch Windows as my daily driver. It was good timing, then, that I watched the "7 Gamers 1 CPU" video from LinuxTechTips, which showed me how to do it without sacrificing gaming. Most everything I use runs in Linux, and for the few things that don't I can spin up a VM. But there's the caveat that is as o…

Holly crap, I always dreamed to achieve what you did and never knew direct GPU access was possible, even though I used Qemu for work before. Right now I am basically running a windows pc for gaming and a linux laptop for work. It seems IOMMU is compatible with all my gaming tower, and with many modern cpus/chipsets. I will make a test over a live CD anb if it works migrate my whole pc and blog about it. Thanks very m…

What's your blog url?

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by wongarsu »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #211
wongarsu wrote: post #157

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>it's very hard to compete with someone who is giving something away for "free" (note quotes) There's at least one very promising competing model: give something away for free (note lack of quotes) and offer people the option to pay. In the software world we usually do that by using the free version as advertisement for a better paid version, Patreon (and Dwarf Fortress etc) show that the model can even work if payin…

I agree with your point but I doubt that something published by such a large company which many consumers have a distaste for ("my stupid computer is always blue-screening; I hate Microsoft") would be able to sustain such a huge development effort on just donations. Edit: if it were open-source and they paid some people to work on it still, that would be...interesting.

I believe getting enough people to donate on a regular basis requires two things: a certain amount of customers have to be real fans of your product, and they have to be aware that the product ceases to exist if nobody donates.

Both aspects are a challenge for software: most people see software as a mere tool, and most people don't see the need for updates (and in fact see them as annoyance).

That's why a twitch streamers or youtube creator can easily get decent amounts of donations while donation buttons in software go completely ignored in almost all cases.

Open source is the one existing model in software development where donations work with some consitency (though donations are mostly in terms of development time, and some widely-used projects still go completely ignored).

For closed source there's are a few working examples with passionate fanbases (mostly games), but for the most part we haven't figured out how to do this well yet.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by elFarto »

JoshuaRedmond wrote: post #234
fpgaminer wrote: post #99

With Windows 10 doing things like this, and Windows 7 being aggressively deprecated, I decided I finally wanted to ditch Windows as my daily driver. It was good timing, then, that I watched the "7 Gamers 1 CPU" video from LinuxTechTips, which showed me how to do it without sacrificing gaming. Most everything I use runs in Linux, and for the few things that don't I can spin up a VM. But there's the caveat that is as o…

The link to the video by LinusTechTips for anyone interested[0]. He actually had a heck of a time getting it working fully with all 7 graphics cards, as shutting a VM down wouldn't correctly release the card's resources (apparently an AMD-specific issue, but they denied it[1]), causing him to have to do a full reboot of the whole system every time one VM needed a restart[1]. [0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXOa…

Here's the link to where he talks about AMD on that stream https://youtu.be/lThX7UovKCc?t=34m
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