GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

Post by ElComradio » Sat, Feb 06, 2016, 8:58 PM UTC

morgante wrote: post #85

iza wrote: post #15

> "We’re trying to build a new kind of enterprise company where the playbooks of old won’t always work" By replacing flat meritocracy and remote work with traditional top-down management? > "don't think we'll succeed teaching white, male middle managers empathy and compassion anytime soon, so let's limit their scope of damage" So the technical director and member of the social-impact team is a blatant racist.

GitHub has, since the Horvath incident, made it pretty clear what kind of person they want to hire. And, frankly, that's fine. There are plenty of places where I, as a competent white male, can get hired and promoted without difficulty. The fact that Github isn't one of those is not a systematic problem. More power to them.

Post by moistgorilla » Sat, Feb 06, 2016, 9:02 PM UTC

specialk wrote: post #213

yaakov34 wrote: post #176

She certainly doesn't say "only white" and she explicitly excludes white women ("some of the biggest barriers to progress"). You can make convoluted excuses for her, but it's obvious that she sees white people (of whatever gender or socioeconomic status) as essentially enemies, and doesn't want them as allies (let alone is willing to accept some of them as people with different, but valid opinions). It's not acceptab…

There is a subtle irony in your comment. I think it is interesting to tease out because much of the arguments on diversity come from one's own perspective. So, if you'll indulge me, your argument is essentially 'us vs them' is a bad thing. About right? If so, I agree. We're not going to solve an exclusionary tech culture by excluding people or creating two sides to a debating war. But what strikes me is that your com…

Post by post_break » Sat, Feb 06, 2016, 9:02 PM UTC

mnglkhn2 wrote: post #181

hitekker wrote: post #38

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This makes me sad. I thought you were being over the top about the racism but then I saw the slides in the article: http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/56b3d2462e526543008... My first reaction is that the language of "us" vs "them", victims vs oppressors, reeks of hatred. Hatred undermines productive conversation, which undermines any attempt at building a good culture. I would have to listen to the whole presen…

Still trying to parse that slide and I am mostly baffled by the line where "(6) Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women." I know the slide needs more context, but even so, it is a very disturbing statement to make. Something is amiss and lots of explanations are needed. PS: now I am more than happy with my choice of keeping my repos on Bitbucket.

Post by ElComradio » Sat, Feb 06, 2016, 9:03 PM UTC

YuriNiyazov wrote: post #155

yoodenvranx wrote: post #146

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I am a young white male with no money, no job and bad health. Can I please have some of this mysterious magic power I am supposed to have?

Do you have an arrest record? If not: there's the magic power. Statistically speaking, a poor young black male is much more likely to have an arrest record than a poor young white male. Edit: holy batman the downvotes. I never considered the possibility that maybe #hnwatch is right.

Post by moistgorilla » Sat, Feb 06, 2016, 9:03 PM UTC

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yoodenvranx wrote: post #198

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I live in Germany, so that does not really apply to me ;)

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