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Announcing the Surface 3

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The type cover seems like a good thing in theory, but in practice feels very "tacked on." Especially in that you have to find a level surface (no pun intended) to rest the device on.

That was the case for the old keyboard covers. The new ones are much better though.

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I am looking forward to the Surface pro 4 announcement. edit: to clarify - I'd like to buy a surface pro, but it is a tough call knowing they have a yearly product release cycle.

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Did you consider that, instead of a hive mind or something silly like that, your post was just overreaching and insulting in its phrasing? I mean, you might recall that I jumped in on that Amazon thread when somebody was calling you a liar. And I downvoted you here, because you were extrapolating your personal feelings to the market at large and kind of being a dink about it. (And, seriously, Steve Jobs on styluses c…

One of these days Apple will come with a stylus of their own and will deem it revolutionary for anyone taking notes and everyone would then want it. I'm still waiting for A4 sized tablets.

> Steve Jobs on styluses can get bent

Steve Jobs also sought alternative medicine for his cancer, so it's not as if he is some repository of universal truths.

And I think locking iPad into media appliance role has to do with them not wanting to kill half of Mac sales, it doesn't make sense to me to artificially limit what is from HW standpoint essentially a keyboardless laptop otherwise. That's why I'll take (transformer) W8 over iPad any day - I only have to take around one device.

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It's just sleazy that all of their advertising is centered on how the keyboard differentiates the device from other tablets and then the keyboard isn't included in the base price.

I strongly agree with this. The keyboard is great. Having a choice of keyboards is also great. However Microsoft makes the keyboard a core part of this device (both literally, and in adverts) so to me there should be no scenario where it doesn't ship with one. They should just set the price at $599 and include the keyboard. At least it is an "out the door" price then, not $500 with a hidden $100 tack-on.

Seems like they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. They attempted to make the Kinect sensor a core part of the Xbox One (including making it central in their advertising, etc) but eventually bowed to pressure to unbundle it in order to sell a $100-cheaper SKU.

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Wow, at that price point and feature set, I think Microsoft finally has something that can plausibly be considered an iPad-killer.

I don't know about iPad-killer, but finally something worth checking out.

Agreed. I don't think will have a iAnything killer until other companies step up their marketing in a big way. Apple is a marketing behemoth.

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LOL at using Windows on a high DPI screen. Windows 8 improved a lot, but using any Desktop apps (Photoshop, IE, Chrome, etc.) is horrible, everything is super tiny. They haven't really given much though to scaling yet, even in Windows 10 scaling is still being figured out.

This is so patently false I'm not sure if you aren't just trolling. I use windows 8 on a 150 DPI screen (28" 4k) on my work desktop and a 220 DPI screen on my laptop (rMBP). Both have no problems, and most commercial apps already support it (chrome, IE no problem, I've heard phtoshop is ok as well).

The post you are responding to is a bit hyperbolic, but "HiDPI" scaling on Windows is still pretty hit or miss with lots of major apps. (Chrome isn't one of them, despite its mention in these posts -- since Chrome 37 it has done proper DPI scaling on Windows, and that release has been out for quite a while now).

Photoshop (since it was also mentioned) has very limited support for real scaling (beyond the OS's default of render as if on a low-dpi screen and then bitmap scale the UI up, which looks horrible, especially when combined with an app you are using to do precise bitmap editing) -- the only meaningful option it gives you is to scale everything in the UI up 200%, which is better than nothing (and what I have to do on my 3840x2160 Toshiba laptop to get a usable UI), but not a really flexible solution and even this is considered an "expirmental feature" in the very latest version.

Adobe Lightroom, on the other hand, has effortless scaling and just works great on screens at any DPI.

The point being there is plenty of support in the OS for apps that effectively scale, it is just that there are a lot of Win32 legacy apps out there which would require a near rewrite of the UI layer to scale well, it is by no means something the OS handles for you automatically (beyond the clumsy bitmap scaling default) if your code targets the older UI APIs, and there are (still) plenty of gotchas you do actually run into when running Windows apps on high DPI screens, though things are certainly improving in this regard.

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Windows Update mostly.

And you can clean that stuff up with the disk cleanup app. You don't need to retain those old install files forever.

That will clear out Service Packs and some uninstaller files, it won't clean up WinSXS.

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It feels like the Surface 3 is coming out a few months too early in some respects, as the disk space improvements in Windows 10 are going to make it a lot more palatable on the $499 model: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/03/16/how-wind...

This is my feeling as well. I just don't want a Windows 8 machine. Its clear it was a transition OS full of compromise, half cooked ideas, and a "lets just ship" mentality, which MS had to embrace considering it was practically a non-player in the mobile space in 2012. I'm hoping 10 comes out with a more refined understanding of modern OS expectations, especially when your OS is both a desktop and mobile OS. I find i…

The Windows memory model is different. With some OSes, you can happily over allocate and everything's great. Malloc won't fail, and so long not every page ends up being touched, you're fine. But as soon as you go over, bam OOM killer.

On Windows, every allocation gets reserved by actual memory, so it's easier to run into a situation where you would start failing malloc. So having swap is more important.

Also, I think that anonymous mmap is backed by the pagefile. So anything using mmap without specifying a file is going to increase your pagefile needs.

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