I've lived my entire life thinking that anything I do or say anywhere could be picked up by phones or cameras or gps. I can't express enough how liberating it is to accept that and move on. The idea that you should be doing anything ever that you couldn't explain to anyone watching is a fantasy to me; something so far from reality you might as well be wearing a tin foil hat.
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#222It goes deeper than even what this article describes - a ford exec admitted last year that they put GPS in all vehicles (post 2004 i think) but they "don't release the data" not sure how much I trust that statement in today's world...
and thats a hidden GPS - I own a 2004 ford that apparently has this and there is no navigation interface in the vehicle.
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#223I've lived my entire life thinking that anything I do or say anywhere could be picked up by phones or cameras or gps. I can't express enough how liberating it is to accept that and move on. The idea that you should be doing anything ever that you couldn't explain to anyone watching is a fantasy to me; something so far from reality you might as well be wearing a tin foil hat.
Congratulations on your privileged life.
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#224I've lived my entire life thinking that anything I do or say anywhere could be picked up by phones or cameras or gps. I can't express enough how liberating it is to accept that and move on. The idea that you should be doing anything ever that you couldn't explain to anyone watching is a fantasy to me; something so far from reality you might as well be wearing a tin foil hat.
Congratulations on your privileged life.
I'd be living a lot more privileged life if I thought the government owed me privacy.
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#225Same deal in the UK with the national ANPR system (Automatic Number Plate Recognition). Ostensibly to reduce the amount of uninsured/untaxed drivers on the roads. Don't want to sit around in databases? Well, here's a nice list of just a few of the things you can't have: Bank account; Car/motorcycle; Mobile telephone; Internet-connected computer; Credit/debit card; Visible face (oh, we might be safe there, for a few y…
I sometimes feel the Hacker News crowd are a bit out of touch with the rest of the population. Here in the UK most people I know feel safer with surveillance, it's used primarily to keep law and order. We don't live in some authoritarian state where it's used for nefarious means, it's used to keep the public safe. And seriously, why would you care if you're sitting on a database? What difference does it make to anyth…
I am less worried about the government agencies as a whole having my data, I am more worried about so random person who works there taking a dislike to an individual, and making their life hell with the access they have.
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
I sometimes feel the Hacker News crowd are a bit out of touch with the rest of the population. Here in the UK most people I know feel safer with surveillance, it's used primarily to keep law and order. We don't live in some authoritarian state where it's used for nefarious means, it's used to keep the public safe. And seriously, why would you care if you're sitting on a database? What difference does it make to anyth…
Don't presume to speak for people in the UK. I'm from the UK and I absolutely, utterly disagree with what you are saying, most of which is baseless. There have been abuses, there are corrupt intentions at work and there most certainly are people who do not think this level of surveillance is a good thing.
Clearly not everyone holds the same beliefs. On this occasion it's me and at least one other person https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8952794
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I'd be living a lot more privileged life if I thought the government owed me privacy.
If I understand your statement correctly, you assert that on one will ever be falsely accused of a crime.
Funnily enough, if the entire world was recorded every second of every day it would literally be impossible to be falsely accused of a crime. This is why many states are passing laws for cops to have cameras on their glasses: it's impossible to lie if there's an uninterrupted live stream of the truth.
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There is no way to reverse this. Trying to cage this with paperwork will just lead to more of the same creative interpretations à la NSA. So the rulers don't feel the rules apply to them, big surprise. With that in mind, the futility of fighting the tide, what is the next step? As the ideal solution of reversal is unavailable, we need to go with harm reduction - but what is the harm that we would reduce? Most would s…
The only way within the system is I guess the Supreme Court. They have already laid a framework establishing that tracking requires a warrant, even if it's just making the police's job more efficient and it's data they can get from a tail. If the license plate tracking gets to that point within metropolitan areas (presumably where cameras are most dense) or they start doing it from blimps or whatever, at least there…
A second way within the system is that people start to vote for politicians who are serious about privacy.