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The headline variations are quite interesting: CNBC: First confirmed case of Ebola confirmed in the United States: CDC NYT: Airline Passenger With Ebola Is Under Treatment in Dallas BBC: First Ebola case diagnosed on US soil CNN: Ebola case is the first diagnosed in the U.S. FOX: EBOLA HITS AMERICA CDC identifies first case on US soil Obviously Fox takes the FUD crown, but I thought the NYT actually misrepresented it…

FOX: EBOLA WAR ON US SOIL

Sounds more like Drudge to me.

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Am I one of the minorities who believe that this hype about Ebola is more sensationalism and news than an actual pandemic we should be fearful for? Let's take a lot at what we can agree on: * The number of cases of infected patients is fairly small. * The vector of transmission is fluid exchange, so that reduces its ability to spread. * The virus doesn't appear to lie dormant, and is only contagious when the patient…

> Am I one of the minorities who believe that this hype about Ebola is more sensationalism and news than an actual pandemic we should be fearful for? Well, besides media sensenationalism, the idea is that we should be fearful of a possible pandemic BEFORE it becomes a pandemic, and that that's how we take the measures and care we need to contain it. (Being fearful of something like that AFTER it becomes a pandemic go…

Nigeria has so far been very lucky: a single index case who was already quite sick when he got on the plane to the country. 20 cases (19 lab confirmed), 8 dead, no new cases since the 5th (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-africa/inde...). They need another 17 days to be sure, if memory serves, but it's looking good. For this index case....

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> "The U.S. government and international organizations recently announced commitments to support these measures. As these measures are rapidly implemented and sustained, the higher projections presented in this report become very unlikely." From the abstract of the report[0] you're citing. Essentially, it's rising exponentially (at smaller numbers) right now so of course if you extrapolate over long enough you're goi…

This is true, but it is still reasonable to discuss current infection rates. As you note, we still haven't even engaged the outbreak with anything close to full force yet . Until we see the effects of that engagement it makes complete sense to look at what is happening right now, not what countermeasures might or might not achieve.

I roll D20 to cast Nuke From Orbit.

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Please don't spread fear when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The probability of ebola spreading to any significant portion of the united states is virtually nil.

Sorry, I will spread complacency like yourself... that will make it all go away.

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> * The number of cases of infected patients is fairly small. This is no longer true. We have no idea how many people are infected anymore because Liberia has too many patients to even keep track. They're literally thousands of beds short and it's actively doubling. The CDC estimate is 100k-1.4m by the end of the year. > * The vector of transmission is fluid exchange, so that reduces its ability to spread. To some de…

> "The U.S. government and international organizations recently announced commitments to support these measures. As these measures are rapidly implemented and sustained, the higher projections presented in this report become very unlikely." From the abstract of the report[0] you're citing. Essentially, it's rising exponentially (at smaller numbers) right now so of course if you extrapolate over long enough you're goi…

The US recently announced a commitment to building 1,700 beds over an undefined time period. (They got on the ground and started fairly quickly. They're totally moving fast, but it's still hard and it takes time.)

The WHO report as of Sept 24th estimates that Liberia alone is 1,550 short of what is needed for treating patients.

That was last week. What do you think it's going to look like in a month?

I think if you look at the numbers you'll see this massive scaling up the CDC is referencing isn't getting ahead of things, it's barely keeping up. The numbers are really quite bad and the CDC estimates shouldn't be taken lightly.

Basically the problem is with an epidemic that is growing exponentially, you have to scale your response exponentially just to keep your current rate of growth. To actually make it go down? You have to scale even faster.

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Are you suggesting an ebola sneeze is a rare or harmless thing? That is the primary means of transmission.

I honestly did not know that. I thought that for a pathogen to be communicable by sneezing made it "airborne," and that Ebola was not. I can't immediately find a source for your claim that sneezing is the "primary means" of transmission - can you provide one?

People can be exposed to Ebola virus from direct physical contact with body fluids like blood, saliva, stool, urine, sweat etc. of an infected person and soiled linen used by a patient.

--WHO

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Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia are some of the most poorest countries on earth. Liberia especially is haunted by its brutal, child-soldier fueled civil war and the entire society is rather rickety. Nigeria, not even the most advanced nation in Africa, seems to have been able to contain Ebola, according to the CDC [1]. There have been isolated cases in European nations that didn't lead to an outbreak. So I think the…

I think one of the reasons why Nigeria was able to contain it compared to Liberia and other countries was an awareness of the disease and the enlightenment campaign from the Government. From initial reports that I read, folks in Liberia didn't really believe it was a 'sickness' till it started killing people. Some of them also first tried 'traditional medicine' and only started going to hospitals when things became r…

The actions by the doctor in the oil hub of Port Harcourt are a sobering counterpoint to the above. He secretly treated another Liberian diplomat, presumably infected by the index case, in a hotel room. The diplomat recovered, the doctor died, but not before infecting others because he did not take the necessary precautions when he become symptomatic.

People can know which end is up and still act very irresponsibly in the face of such a lethal threat.

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Just reposting a comment that I made earlier today (re Syria, but apropos here too):

IF you have some free time, the Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team (HOT) is always looking for volunteer mappers. The current ebola outbreak is the #1 priority for HOT.

Tracing buildings, roads, and other features from aerial imagery is something that anybody can do, and it provides immediate benefit to volunteers from the World Health Organization (WHO), Doctors Without Borders (DWB/MSF), IFRC and other humanitarian organizations on the ground responding to the crisis.

To map something now: http://tasks.hotosm.org/

More on HOT: http://hot.openstreetmap.org/get-involved

"HOT benefits from contributors with a wide range of interests and experience. Almost anyone can make a tremendous contribution to our projects by contributing mapping, but we're also very pleased to hear from developers, documenters and ideas hackers that can engage with us and our work."

Re: CDC confirms first Ebola case diagnosed in US

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Am I one of the minorities who believe that this hype about Ebola is more sensationalism and news than an actual pandemic we should be fearful for? Let's take a lot at what we can agree on: * The number of cases of infected patients is fairly small. * The vector of transmission is fluid exchange, so that reduces its ability to spread. * The virus doesn't appear to lie dormant, and is only contagious when the patient…

No, no, it has to be taken very seriously before it spreads. This is the kind of thing that could completely upend the entire planet if not taken seriously. What would happen if the entire world had to self quarantine for three to four weeks and all transportation grounded for the same period of time. No, this is a huge deal. I have long believed that some kind of bacteria or virus is going to take out all or a huge…

Insult unnecessary. At this point, prayer & science have similar influence over curing someone of Ebola. Contradictory to say you'll "choose science thank you" yet don't have (per hyperbolic statement) any sensible tangible preparations to meet an Ebola epidemic with.

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This is a great semi formal interview with a local infectious disease specialist I heard on montana public radio yesterday that gives a rather unique view:

http://mtpr.org/post/missoula-doctor-ebola-front-lines

As he explains, Montana has one of the few labs in the country (actually in the small town I live in) where you can work on live ebola cultures so we have medical people trained to deal with ebola etc and some also have been spending time in africa.

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