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Don't underestimate the value of the Nokia brand. Until recently, IIRC, Nokia was the world's largest seller of mobile phones. That brand image is worth a ton to help MS sell its phones.
Right up until they went windows phone only. The result is nokia's sales dropping, not windows phone sales increasing.
Microsoft Looks to Cut Up to 18,000 Jobs
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#2221. Any reason why executive pay can't be reduced and save these jobs ? Why pay stupid executive million and millions dollars and chop jobs of these poor people ? 2. Who determines who gets to stay and who gets to be fired ? Fucked up ranking system ? Ass-Lickers ? 3. Anyone saying layoff are good should really take second look outside during daytime ( 9 - 5). Once you are in battleground of searching job its hell. Re…
Re: Microsoft Looks to Cut Up to 18,000 Jobs
#2231. Any reason why executive pay can't be reduced and save these jobs ? Why pay stupid executive million and millions dollars and chop jobs of these poor people ? 2. Who determines who gets to stay and who gets to be fired ? Fucked up ranking system ? Ass-Lickers ? 3. Anyone saying layoff are good should really take second look outside during daytime ( 9 - 5). Once you are in battleground of searching job its hell. Re…
Re: Microsoft Looks to Cut Up to 18,000 Jobs
#2241. Any reason why executive pay can't be reduced and save these jobs ? Why pay stupid executive million and millions dollars and chop jobs of these poor people ? 2. Who determines who gets to stay and who gets to be fired ? Fucked up ranking system ? Ass-Lickers ? 3. Anyone saying layoff are good should really take second look outside during daytime ( 9 - 5). Once you are in battleground of searching job its hell. Re…
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Thanks for pointing this out! But would you think think that in this post pc era, devices per se that require drivers and dont have their own os that can communicate via standards are kind of going the way of the dodo? As an aside, I'm wondering why every time I try to post something on YC's news forum I seem get downvoted. Is it groupthink that I just cant join in on? Is this community averse to opinions or ideas th…
You should really read up on what a driver is before waffling in on a subject -_-
What I'm implying is that the architecture of new computing devices such as the surface or ipad, imacs etc, is changing the nature of the interfacing with expansion ports; devices are getting connected via standard connections like usb which is now very fast (5Gb in v3 IIRC?), and now sport their own system on chip with built in drivers to the hardware.
At the same time, standards are solidifying, and as such, standard drivers built into the os are getting to be good enough for all the features. For example, my midi usb keyboard connects to the ipad without any drivers. My camera connects to the surface and shows up as a usb drive without any drivers.
The last time I manually downloaded a third party driver (not part of a vetted distribution) was to use up the last ounce of performance for a video game on a pc rig, in 2011.
So if device drivers are now part of the OS burden, they are at the cost of the os provider; and as such, how are the abundance of unmaintained- semi-maintained pieces of code derived from winDDK samples floating around an advantage?
Thanks for reading this far, I'm really interested in this discussion! And I won myself another down vote!
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I would spontaneously combust if I were responsible for a $364B company on a good day, never mind deciding how layoffs should be done. It's just surprising that parody-level corporate-speak still gets used despite having being derided for years in mainstream press and conversation.
/s/corporate\ speak/lawyer\ speak
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When you fire that many people, then this is the tone you use, unfortunately. It's not specific (so people won't be able to argue that they're really needed, etc.), it does not have any negative statements (no blame on people who're let go), it not personal (Nadella cannot and should not express any strong positive or negative personal feelings about the event). It can be a disgusting read, but everybody does that in…
Everyone talks like 'Last week in my email to you I synthesized our strategic direction'? This guy is trying too hard to sound smart. Everything that's written by him reads like a try-hard freshman English major.
I could see him being Graded cat 4 "in need of improvement" and put on a PIP in one company for that less than stellar performance.
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>'So MS Bought Nokia and ~30k employees for ~$7.2 billion last April. 3 months later, MS may now be firing ~half of the Nokia group. The executives who drove that catastrophic deal stay.' My understanding, primarily from friends at Cisco which has its own history of acquisitions and layoffs is that this is roughly standard procedure, catastrophe or not. Basically, there's always going to be a lot of overlap when acqu…
By the way, survey of mergers found that while most mergers fail, Cisco is an outlier making successful mergers one after another. It is said that Cisco analyzed successful and unsuccessful mergers and does data-driven, evidence-based decision making. http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/03/hard-facts-mergers.htm...
'Cisco figured out that mergers between similar sized companies rarely work, as there are frequently struggles about which team will control the combined entity.'
I recall asking people there about why they didn't acquire certain companies that I thought would make a lot of sense from a technical / product perspective.
The typical answer was right in line with that quote - that Cisco stays away bigger companies that others might try to swallow at high cost.
That they look for logical acquisitions of specific products in the few hundred million dollar range, not billions.
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> Is there any large acquisition that succeeded in the last 10 years? Yes, many. Think of the Lenovo-IBM deal -- massive success. The Facebook-Whatsapp deal is 2.5x bigger than this acquisition, we'll see how that works out (financially). Google-Youtube is a big one that can be considered as a big success as well. Ebay-Paypal. FB-Instagram.
Bigger in terms of inflated stock prices, but not by head count. Lenovo has taken the Thinkpad line down the toilet, not that IBM wouldn't have.
I think you're overstating things tremendously here. ThinkPad is alive, and from the reviews I've seen, doing well. http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/28/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon.... Many buyouts end with entire products being canned.
I still have an IBM ThinkPad. They were good quality back then, but I really think the standard-bearer today is MacBook.
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#230So MS Bought Nokia and ~30k employees for ~$7.2 billion last April. 3 months later, MS may now be firing ~half of the Nokia group. The executives who drove that catastrophic deal stay. What a testament to how disastrous big M&A really is. Is there any large acquisition that succeeded in the last 10 years? I'd feel sorry if I was a Nokia guy there, they pulled out the best non-Apple phone hardware in the last years. P…
I hope the ex-Nokia people start a phone company.