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Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by arethuza »

natrius wrote: post #206
secstate wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But 90% of the world doesn't die from exotic cancers, at least not below the age of 50 (or 60 ... keeps creeping up). The idea that advanced medicine is an justification for for-profit medicine is a straw man argument. The reality is that there are many more nuanced single-payer healthcare systems in the world than the one where the government tells you who gets to live and who gets to die. In the U.K. for example, t…

I don't fear the rest of the world getting better than us at medicine. Money motivates most people. The best doctors will go where they can get the most money. That is here. If I had to pick between the UK's system, where price controls help pay for healthcare for those who can't afford it, and the Affordable Care Act, where wealthy people pay for healthcare for those who can't afford it, I'd choose the Affordable Ca…

There is a private health care sector in the UK - doctors can choose to work there exclusively or share their time with the NHS. You aren't forced to use or work for the NHS - although everyone does have to pay for it.

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by Fuxy »

makomk wrote: post #214
hueving wrote: post #174

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If the probabilities were as bad as you suggest, there would be no such thing as health insurance. They need to bring in more than they spend on health-care costs. Most people can't end in a devastating health-cost manner.

Not really. Hugely ruinous medical expenses could be something that happened, say, once every hundred or two hundred person-years and still affect a massive proportion of people who lived long enough. Also, even just health insurance for critical illness and emergencies isn't exactly cheap...

Well it's not like the health insurance companies really want to pay for the bills the contracts are always phrased in such a way that the can just say... well we don't cover that when you get sick but the do expect you to pay every month when you are healthy.

They wouldn't have that ability in a European like country sponsored insurance since everything would be covered.

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

natrius wrote: post #206
secstate wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But 90% of the world doesn't die from exotic cancers, at least not below the age of 50 (or 60 ... keeps creeping up). The idea that advanced medicine is an justification for for-profit medicine is a straw man argument. The reality is that there are many more nuanced single-payer healthcare systems in the world than the one where the government tells you who gets to live and who gets to die. In the U.K. for example, t…

I don't fear the rest of the world getting better than us at medicine. Money motivates most people. The best doctors will go where they can get the most money. That is here. If I had to pick between the UK's system, where price controls help pay for healthcare for those who can't afford it, and the Affordable Care Act, where wealthy people pay for healthcare for those who can't afford it, I'd choose the Affordable Ca…

"...the UK's system, where price controls help pay for healthcare for those who can't afford it..."

I'm not sure how much you know about the UK system, but it doesn't use "price controls". Its funded by National Insurance Contributions [1], which are a form of payroll tax. The more you earn, the more you pay. People on low incomes pay nothing but still receive health care.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Insurance

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by epsylon »

rubiquity wrote: post #48

Could someone he trusts and someone capable of setting up a cryptocurrency account do so for him? I imagine a community like Dogecoin would help any way that they can.

The dogecoin foundation[1] might help. (They usually handle the conversion to fiat currency.)

http://foundation.dogecoin.com/

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by cowls »

jwdunne wrote: post #217
lucisferre wrote: post #185

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You would be surprised. It wasn't long ago when I met an intelligent and otherwise very well informed American who truly believed that the "socialized" Canadian healthcare system was a 3rd rate disaster and feared any change to the precious US system would lead to a similar situation. Don't get me wrong he acknowledged it wasn't great, but there is more than sufficient doubt and confusion amongst most Americans with…

I'm from the UK. The NHS is shambles and is spread very, very thin. Doctors are pissed off. Patients are pissed off. The government seems to be too. However I would prefer the 3 hour A&E (ER) waiting times, being spoken to like shit if it isn't as serious as originally thought and epic waiting lists for outpatient services than having companies profit from my health and the massive vulnerability that puts me in (on t…

The NHS is not a shambles. Its puts a lot of other countries health care system to shame.

Your moaning about having a 3 hour wait for non urgent cases, when in other countries you'd have to pay a fortune for such treatment.

And who cares how they talk to you, as long as you end up getting the treatment you need that's all that matters.

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by tripzilch »

overgard wrote: post #194
hueving wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the probabilities were as bad as you suggest, there would be no such thing as health insurance. They need to bring in more than they spend on health-care costs. Most people can't end in a devastating health-cost manner.

So.. your argument is that because insurance companies can profit, it's not so bad? "Well, your legacy might be financial ruin for your children, or an early death to avoid that, but since most people die before they realize they're severely ill, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not arguing probabilities here, I'm arguing deductive reasoning. You are a decaying meatsack. So am I. At some point something very bad will happen to that dec…

But the problem is also that healthcare in the US is just absurdly expensive, insurance or not. Sure, many EU countries have universal health insurance, but if you look behind those, costs (paid by the insurance or not) are quite a bit lower than the US. They're still quite hefty and you do want to be insured for them, but why is healthcare in the US so expensive in the first place?

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by tripzilch »

colechristensen wrote: post #116
amix wrote: post #104

I donated $50, but I really wish US (and other countries) would reconsider their broken healthcare systems. My dad died of cancer a few years ago and I am really glad we lived in Denmark when he got it - - with a great public healthcare system. He lived 2 years with his cancer, which is a lot when you are counting days. Not many normal people can afford these things (as each of my dads treatments cost about 20.000USD…

I don't particularly see this as being a strong problem with American healthcare. You can buy health insurance to pay for any and all medical expenses. The healthcare system is broken if you do an honest day's work and can't afford insurance, but that's not what we're talking about here. There is a reason that most of the best hospitals in the world are American, and the way we fund our healthcare is that reason. Yes…

> most of the best hospitals in the world are American

Are they really? Citation?

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by tripzilch »

colechristensen wrote: post #124
doktrin wrote: post #121

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> The healthcare system is broken if you do an honest day's work and can't afford insurance, but that's not what we're talking about here. Isn't it, though? If you replace "insurance" with "appropriate medical care" that does in fact sound like what we're talking about. This individual was a programmer, who based on his blog only quit his job once he was physically unable to perform the duties required - and yet, is…

You can buy insurance which covers home health care and doesn't cost a cent after a deductible of a few thousand dollars. You can buy insurance which provides income if you can't work because of an illness... there are also several government programs that help the disabled. You can also save money for emergencies and not live in debt beyond your means your whole life as too many Americans do. Sometimes bad luck stri…

> If you get sick and can't work, is the health care system supposed to pay your mortgage too?

Where I'm from, if you get sick and can't work, we won't let people waste away on the streets, yes.

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by [deleted] »

colechristensen wrote: post #176
girvo wrote: post #167

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My god you're a privileged, elitist, self centred... calm, be calm. The fact that you keep posting this crap on a thread about some I look up to who is DYING OF BRAIN CANCER is really upsetting. So please stop.

If you don't like discussing the costs and methods of delivering health care, downvote the parent comment which mentioned it initially, not a person whom you disagree with. If you can't handle an opposing viewpoint without becoming extremely upset and resorting to petty insults, you are part of the broken political system that has led to many of the problems we face, not me.

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