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David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Post by willyt »

pyre wrote: post #107
EarthLaunch wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think his intention is, to do the right thing? He knows what he's doing and there's no reason to expect him to acknowledge the "side-effects" of an evil regulation. And the reporter is not responsible for realizing this; you are.

So the reporter has no responsibility to uphold journalistic ideals? Good to know.

There's a whole seperate article in the opinion section on why the law doesn't make sense http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/21/david-came... The 'quality' UK papers generally try to seperate opinions from factual reporting. Maybe the NYT WSJ etc do this as well?

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Post by bigiain »

wfn wrote: post #165
weavie wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That probably doubles your chances of making it onto some list.

Now see, that's why everybody should use Tor now and then! :) That way this unique characteristic will become common enough for a generic filter on Tor users to become ineffective (by their measures). If you don't want to be seen connecting to Tor directory authorities and to relays directly, use a Tor bridge. Better yet, run one yourself! If you are using obfuscated bridges, you can (as of now) fool even pretty soph…

Can I suggest next time you have a perfectly normal and mundane need to access any government website - you fire up TOR Browser first? Go look up your local representative's name, or the garbage collection days for your suburb, but do it over TOR, and leave the trails in their logfiles.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Post by ciderpunx »

Its going to be against the rules to look up offensive terms like, say, "child abuse imagery".

Which presumably means that the legislation will have to use the term "child abuse imagery". Which means that it will be impossible to look up the legislation using a search engine. One has to wonder how we are expected to know whether or not we are complying with it given that we shan't be legally allowed to search for it.

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Post by user24 »

gjm11 wrote: post #125
Sven7 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have kids?

I have a young daughter and I live in the UK. I think this legislation is bloody stupid. Yes, some people might reasonably not want their children to run across pornographic material on the internet. Here are some other things some people might reasonably not want their children to run across on the internet: Anti-religious material. Religious material. Depictions of violence. Any mention of prejudice against racial…

Great comment.

> won't require her to seek out dubious illegal channels which are likely to be full of stuff much "worse" than she'd easily have found without all the censorship.

This is one of my biggest fears.

As an analogy (and a true story); they banned selling knives on ebay[1]. Now I have to go to specialist knife-selling websites to buy my knives (I am a collector). Those websites have a much better range and promote knives much better than ebay did.

[1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7879701.stm

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Post by Fuxy »

Great another excuse to ban millions of sites under the disguise of protecting children from porn or catching child rapists.

Let's talk about what this really is. It's just the governments way of telling us what porn we should watch and banning anything they think is "not normal".

And if some legitimate sites get mixed up in this this filter we're suppose to believe it's an honest mistake right?

Stay away from my porn Cameron or I'll fuck you up.

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Post by waqasx »

upvote if you think this is just a cover story to increase internet surveillance and put internet in government control. USA does it to protect itself from 'terroeists' we all know how well that turned out. but since theres going to be no public outrage over freedom to watch porn, this trickster will fool his public this way.

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Post by petercooper »

conroy wrote: post #12

> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With this on the books, it seems a short hop to outlaw videos of simulated murder.

I'm no lawyer, but it already is, if they're in a pornographic "context": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_63_of_the_Criminal_Just...

This 2008 act outlaws possessing or publishing explicit and realistic imagery of acts that threaten life, would cause serious injury to certain genitals, etc.

So fisting, simulated murder, or simulated necrophilia.. already illegal. Rape, borderline allowable, although if I were a lawyer testing this act in court, I'd say that rape is quite clearly an act that is "likely to result" in "serious injury to a person's anus, breasts or genitals".

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Post by bencollier49 »

marshray wrote: post #162

I commend David Cameron and his party for doing more than anyone else this week in promoting privacy-preserving technologies such as Tor, VPNs, HTTPS, etc.

Oh but all they're ever used for is circumventing the paedophile-filter. You'll need a license for that VPN, young man.
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