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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by spaux » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 5:10 PM UTC

flyinRyan wrote: post #217

annnnd wrote: post #180

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Exactly. Also, as they are becoming more similar to Android, it won't take much for users to actually switch to it. I am sure Google is happy to see this development.

I don't think it's Android's busy, ... unique interface that keeps Apple owners from switching. It's the hundreds of dollars in apps they've invested in that won't transfer.

I don't know that that's true, I think it's general consensus that an android phone is not as good as an iPhone. I'd wager that this update removes a lot of that divide and gives people a reason to look at the alternative.

This is just speculation, I haven't run the iOS 7 developer preview yet.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by coldtea » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:27 PM UTC

spaux wrote: post #218

coldtea wrote: post #208

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> I feel like the redesign of their UI hasn't gone far enough In 7 months (after Ive got in charge)? Let's see any team in the world do better in the same time. Not to mention that if they had gone further, people would also complaint ("oh, this is not the iOS we knew and love at all anymore"). People talk about Windows Phone similarities. It took Microsoft 4-5 years AFTER the iPhone was introduced to copy all the ba…

This wasn't supposed to be read as a bash against apple or the iphone, just an observation. When the original design was done, the world was a very different place where apple was very clearly ahead. With this UI it seems to me that the differences between ios android and windows phone are pretty minor. I used to tell people that you'd get an easier experience with apple, and a better experience with the right androi…

>This wasn't supposed to be read as a bash against apple or the iphone, just an observation. When the original design was done, the world was a very different place where apple was very clearly ahead. With this UI it seems to me that the differences between ios android and windows phone are pretty minor.

Well, as Jobs said, the iPhone was ahead of the industry by about 5 years. Those 5 years have passed.

Did anyone think the competitors would never catch up? It's not like Windows for the desktop is like XP anymore. It has also seen much more refinement and maturity, and could be compared far more favourably to OS X.

That said, Apple / iOS retains the benefits of the 5 year head-start: iOS is more coherent and mature, the whole ecosystem is bigger (from apps, to accounts on file, to third party peripherals, etc), etc etc.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by css771 » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 8:46 PM UTC

berntb wrote: post #198

css771 wrote: post #191

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And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing - they do their own thing. And with the next Touchwiz, they will revolutionize Touchwiz UX. That's a fact /s But seriously, the amount of snark (and hypocrisy imo) in your comment was too much to take.

>>And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing Uhh... the whole idea with the present generation of smartphone (software) comes from the iPhone. That (and applying it to create pads people were willing to pay for) was new . Everyone should be able to agree on that, at least.

Well no I don't agree with it, at least not in the way that you suggest.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by path411 » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 10:32 PM UTC

bdt101 wrote: post #86

greghinch wrote: post #70

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

Even if these are just trends, we now see Apple following trends rather than setting them. That's a significant change.

Hasn't Apple's process always been to take other successful things and offer a very polished and high quality feel of it?