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Post by tziki »

petilon wrote: post #149

This is wild: OpenAI is basically declaring that AGI is here. https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/989601/o... “If we fast-forward a couple of years, and we look back and say, ‘When was it, really, that AGI was created?’ I think it’s going to be about this time, and I think it might be about this model,” OpenAI president Greg Brockman said during a Thursday press briefing. Later in the call, he added,…

"OpenAI executive hypes up new model"

Don't get me wrong, the benchmark jumps are good and I'm excited to try it, but only one or two of the benchmark jumps could be described as better than incremental.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by tinyhouse »

You can talk to OpenAI to create a silly game and order food. What a lame way to show the model capabilities. Has Alexa commercial vibes.

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Post by mgraczyk »

_superposition_ wrote: post #138
isoprophlex wrote: post #68

> We have found that GPT-6 Astra is more capable of controlling its own CoT than GPT 5.6-Sol, and less likely to include incriminating information in its CoT. In adversarial settings (where we push the model to evade our monitors) we find that the model is able to remain undetected when strategically underperforming in evaluations (sandbagging) and can sometimes evade our internal monitors when asked to perform certa…

I really wish it was called chain of instruction. Because it's definitely not thought.

this is needlessly pedantic

first, they are certainly not instructions so that is a much worse name

but more importantly, we use words in new contexts all the time. Do you object to calling the computer device "mouse" because it's not a mouse? how about "neural network"? "ignition" on an electric vehicle?

"cot" is no more misleading than thousands of words you use every day.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

well_ackshually wrote: post #114
Cu3PO42 wrote: post #58

Just two days ago, a preprint by Julia Stadlmann went up on arXiv [0] improving the prime gap from 246 to 240. Now OpenAI announces Astra has shown a gap of 186 [1]. That must really blow. [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.31126 [1] https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/51126fac-1b68-4128-9666-c908bcc16...

Such a result should be considered worthless: the proof is 10MB of Lean. ( https://github.com/openai/PrimeGaps186 ). I can't think of a single mathematical proof being anywhere close to ten million characters. For all you know, 90% of the proof could be useless, 8% would be writing out Shakespeare, and 1% abusing another bug in Lean. Humanity gets zero value from that, aside from "some bot seems to think it's 186". U…

Terence Tao says something surprisingly similar in a recent talk (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49056620 ) Not that the proof is worthless but that the value comes after it's revised into a cleanly understandable form and then canonicalized so that other mathematicians can use it.

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Post by Rover222 »

rektomatic wrote: post #168
petilon wrote: post #149

This is wild: OpenAI is basically declaring that AGI is here. https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/989601/o... “If we fast-forward a couple of years, and we look back and say, ‘When was it, really, that AGI was created?’ I think it’s going to be about this time, and I think it might be about this model,” OpenAI president Greg Brockman said during a Thursday press briefing. Later in the call, he added,…

Remember when the term "AGI" meant something? Pepperidge farm remembers

No, I really don't

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by lossolo »

_superposition_ wrote: post #138
isoprophlex wrote: post #68

> We have found that GPT-6 Astra is more capable of controlling its own CoT than GPT 5.6-Sol, and less likely to include incriminating information in its CoT. In adversarial settings (where we push the model to evade our monitors) we find that the model is able to remain undetected when strategically underperforming in evaluations (sandbagging) and can sometimes evade our internal monitors when asked to perform certa…

I really wish it was called chain of instruction. Because it's definitely not thought.

Yeah, basically they are using more computation to explore the solution space before producing the final answer.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by zem »

vb-8448 wrote: post #176
tintor wrote: post #81

ARC AGI-3 saturated by Astra! https://arcprize.org/leaderboard

But scored less on V2 and V1 ... too much overfitting?

https://mvakde.github.io/blog/44-on-arc-1/ makes a good case that all the performance on the arc agi tests is overfitting, based on the fact that v1 performance did not translate directly to v2 performance

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by minimaxir »

_superposition_ wrote: post #138
isoprophlex wrote: post #68

> We have found that GPT-6 Astra is more capable of controlling its own CoT than GPT 5.6-Sol, and less likely to include incriminating information in its CoT. In adversarial settings (where we push the model to evade our monitors) we find that the model is able to remain undetected when strategically underperforming in evaluations (sandbagging) and can sometimes evade our internal monitors when asked to perform certa…

I really wish it was called chain of instruction. Because it's definitely not thought.

"Chain of Thoughts" is a term from the title of a 2022 research paper "Chain-of-Thought Prompting Elicits Reasoning in Large Language Models" (https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.11903), well before ChatGPT and the subsequent marketing hype. If anything, it's the most correct way to use the term.
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