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I think this move by Codeberg is lowkey genius. They're trying to build a community based on a set of shared values. Those who disagree with those values are now self-selecting out of the Codeberg community, which is exactly the point of passing these kinds of resolutions. The fact that the rule is open for interpretation means that they can effectively shut down malicious actors (i.e those who intentionally misrepre…
these things always end with community disintegration. Eventually, some high profile user will cross the undefined line or leaders change and want to rewrite the rule then half the community will side with them and half will not.
I think this move by Codeberg is lowkey genius. They're trying to build a community based on a set of shared values. Those who disagree with those values are now self-selecting out of the Codeberg community, which is exactly the point of passing these kinds of resolutions. The fact that the rule is open for interpretation means that they can effectively shut down malicious actors (i.e those who intentionally misrepre…
> The fact that the rule is open for interpretation means that they can effectively shut down malicious actors This also mean that some kind of charismatic leader can become a de-facto tyrant. And btw, lone leader on top, bending the rules at will… that’s a trait all dictatorships have in common (hitler, mussolini, stalin, mao, etc). Just saying.
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He does have some choice words for you if you're Russian, though: > As to sending me a revert patch — please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be ‘supporting’ Russian aggression? (from https://therecord.media/linus-torvalds-russian-linux-kernel-... ) I think this shows that there is a blurry line between moral and practical judgment, and that the type of judgment might not even matter…
his personal stance did not lead to anybody being excluded though.
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Perfectly summarised. Also recently saw so many people moving from GitHub to Codeberg because of anti-US and sovereign European tech movement and I wonder now which platform they are going to move again
I think this would be a good time for another European alternative to present itself. Outside the US, but more pragmatic than Codeberg.
I think introducing unpredictable new prohibitions is a much bigger problem than the specific bans on cryptocurrency or AI written code. Especially when it leads to existing code becoming unavailable and doesn't just ban new contributions violating the rules.
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I don't think they were saying that there aren't reasons to not use github, in or out of the USA, but rather that codeberg was already not a contender for many use cases due to their existing rules restricting private/non-OSS repos.
It's apples to oranges. No matter how many reasons one has to avoid github, Codeberg is only an alternative for open source hosting. Are there any alternatives that you could use for closed source development that aren't owned by US entities?
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I think this would be a good time for another European alternative to present itself. Outside the US, but more pragmatic than Codeberg.
It will exist if you create it
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Yeah something i noticed is that the richer the area is the more disconnected from reality they are. LLMs are here to stay. The genie’s out of the lamp. Get over it.
No, people aren't going to get over it. Prepare to adjust your expectations.
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"Not going anywhere" is such a strange argument. Tomato juice isn't going anywhere, does it mean I'm going to be guzzling it at some point in my life? What? If you've made your choice about LLMs based on morals or ethics rather than the quality of the tooling, you're not going to change that choice because the models haven't disappeared or have improved, unless you're forced to (but that forced bit applies only to co…
Every moral or ethical argument ultimately boils down to problems inherent in how any piece of automation is used under capitalism, and has little to do with technology itself. If you spend a bit of time thinking about morals or ethics you'll quickly realize that LLMs are not the problem. And no, a year is absolutely not long enough for everyone to have made a choice about this tooling. Claiming any sorts of absolute…
And in any other case I would agree with your second paragraph as well! But AI is very, excessively loud. Even if you never wanted to -- especially if you never wanted to -- you were already overexposed to it ages ago (when it was at its worst, really, but that's probably beside the point). You would have made your choices then: use now, never use, or use later if it improves. I'll grant the technicality that "everyone" is hyperbole of course, but when you have grandmas and children both talking about the thing, yeah no. You'd be hard pressed to find someone without a stance. And someone remotely interested in Codeberg not having one? Come on now.