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Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Post by sourdecor » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:08 PM UTC

NamTaf wrote: post #149

Mg6yDfjp5U wrote: post #10

I recently left Google having worked on a number of projects with various YouTube teams. I think I can explain why it's being handled this way by YouTube. This is a fairly nuanced/involved issue, so the task of classifying the bug likely made it's way to one of the engineers responsible for the implementation of this feature. That engineer has already launched this project, and filed it away under their GRAD (perform…

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Engineering and math follow logic - they model reality / self-consistency and always correct themselves because of the scientific method. However, computer science is a chase of what is the most popular at the moment. Those are decisions based on the crowd, not anything close to an objective opinion, and the wrong choices are compounded every day[0][1].

[0]: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~crary/819-f09/Landin66.pdf

[1]: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1622123.1622147

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Post by rvba » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:12 PM UTC

fathermarz wrote: post #157

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I think there is a fine line. YouTube is not critical software and no one’s life depends on the safety (putting mental health aside) of the code running. Some software engineers do however write code that is critical, but to your point, I don’t think they are ever considered liable. I went through an acquisition as a Canadian software developer getting acquired by an American company. They wanted us to be called engi…

I disagree. People's lives depend on money earned from youtube.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:13 PM UTC

NamTaf wrote: post #149

Mg6yDfjp5U wrote: post #10

I recently left Google having worked on a number of projects with various YouTube teams. I think I can explain why it's being handled this way by YouTube. This is a fairly nuanced/involved issue, so the task of classifying the bug likely made it's way to one of the engineers responsible for the implementation of this feature. That engineer has already launched this project, and filed it away under their GRAD (perform…

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There's more than one variable here, but nice try.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Post by rvba » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:13 PM UTC

stavros wrote: post #216

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> This is a prime example of why programmers are not seriously considered engineers. I'm a programmer working in healthcare. If I ignore a safety issue anyone discovered, people die and we go to prison. Am I an engineer now?

Closer to an engineer than the hacks described above.

Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Post by thaeli » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:15 PM UTC

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #208

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Don't blame programmers, blame the insane annual review system at IT corporations. Introduce the same system at train engineering companies and you'll get the same result.

At an operational level for the railroads, we have PSR, which is even worse.

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Post by jp_sc » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:15 PM UTC

NamTaf wrote: post #149

Mg6yDfjp5U wrote: post #10

I recently left Google having worked on a number of projects with various YouTube teams. I think I can explain why it's being handled this way by YouTube. This is a fairly nuanced/involved issue, so the task of classifying the bug likely made it's way to one of the engineers responsible for the implementation of this feature. That engineer has already launched this project, and filed it away under their GRAD (perform…

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Last year alone, 40 people died in Spain in a train derailment. In total, how many people have died over the last 100 years because of something a software engineer did?

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Post by tryagainian » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:17 PM UTC

sixtyj wrote: post #187

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> This is a prime example of why programmers are not seriously considered engineers. Seems to me like your comment is simply an example of prejudice. You're just describing another standardized incentive structure that you're operating in, and using that as a basis to extrapolate that programmers of all kinds—whether they work on a video platform or on machinery that could cause catastrophe if it fails—are implicitly…

The prejudice seems to be everywhere. Unfortunately, to my knowledge. Eg. architects vs construction engineers vs land surveyors vs construction designers vs urban planners… anyone of them thinks that their profession is more valuable than the others…

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Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Post by redsocksfan45 » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:18 PM UTC

jp_sc wrote: post #226

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Last year alone, 40 people died in Spain in a train derailment. In total, how many people have died over the last 100 years because of something a software engineer did?

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Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Post by redsocksfan45 » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:20 PM UTC

HelloMcFly wrote: post #172

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"The rat is always right." - B.F. Skinner. When the rat presses a lever, don't blame the rat. This is super reductionist of course, but I always keep it in mind.

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Re: Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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Post by LtWorf » Sat, Jul 04, 2026, 10:24 PM UTC

jp_sc wrote: post #226

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Last year alone, 40 people died in Spain in a train derailment. In total, how many people have died over the last 100 years because of something a software engineer did?

Probably way more.