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Sure be a lobbying group but without public funding. If your members can't be bothered to pay the cost of the union it can cease to exist.
In other words, yes you do believe that having direct access to politicians is a privilege to be reserved only for the rich.
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> Your union blocked this because your employer was trying to break your unions negotiating power by separating your interests from the collective workforce. Be that as it may, for this specific employee the union was a negative. In effect, he is asked to sacrifice for the collective. It's understandable that that's acceptable to the collective, but it's also not hard to see why the sacrifice wouldn't like that. > Th…
Representation under a union is voluntary, and if an employee doesn't wish to be represented by that union, they may quit. I'm sure there are some other means of avoiding union representation in unionized workplaces in the US, but I don't know the speciics of them. This is generally called strikebreaking, though the act of working with a company outside of its unionized workforce isn't strongly defined outside the te…
Come on, that's not voluntary in any true sense - especially since the same justification could be made for not having a union in the first place!
There is no reason for any employee to not search for unionization. It is your right and it is in your best interest. Good for them.
Pro unionists will tell you that you are a sucker for being a good worker anyway, there is no reward, but what else would they say? Look at all the people who have independently moved up in a company or hopped jobs for better pay? Probably not.
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What’s in the collective best interest may not match with what’s in the individual best interest. Perhaps unions are more likely to be in the self interest of the below average employees, the ones with no negotiating power. The best school teachers are almost certainly being held back by their unions and the worst ones are getting a free pass. When I worked at a unionized place I was blocked from an opportunity my em…
> What’s in the collective best interest may not match with what’s in the individual best interest. The alternative isn't what is in your best interest, but what is in your boss's best interest
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In other words, yes you do believe that having direct access to politicians is a privilege to be reserved only for the rich.
No I believe that you should not be paid my tax money to run your politically motivated union. The members of the union should.
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You can fall ill or need working accommodations regardless of whether you are above or below average.
And you can more easily take care of those needs yourself if you aren't required to subsidize your below average colleagues.
But it's a thought process that depends on the idea that you're always in control of staying on the better side of the average in whatever metric a company chooses to judge employees. Which is a bold position to stake out without the anti-discrimination and working time safety measures achieved by unions that are at obvious risk of falling away without them.
Many of the freedoms to individually negotiate with an employer about rights and payment are underwritten by safety nets that are negotiated by unions, and everyone thinks themselves better than average until they aren't.
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> What’s in the collective best interest may not match with what’s in the individual best interest. The alternative isn't what is in your best interest, but what is in your boss's best interest
that's certainly one alternative, but can we stop looking at everything as a bipartisan scenario with binary outcomes? Maybe there's lots of aspects with mutually aligned interests? Perhaps every single thing in life is not a "us" vs. "them"?
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Have you ever read the ToS/ToU of any social media site? Did you know that by using this site you've agreed to arbitration? https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/#tou Giving up copyright when you write an article for Wikipedia is literally the only way it could possibly work. The biggest issue Wikimedia has is its full time staff, followed by full time editors.
Social media is different from wikipedia. If i write my opinions here, it is not an opinion of ycombinator. If I write stuff on wikipedia, it is opinion of wikipedia and there is rigorous editorial process, to get my stuff published... Also here my name is right next to the text, not in wikipedia! Platform vs publisher...
That's obviously false, if for no other reason than:
> and there is rigorous editorial process, to get my stuff published...
There are people who will see and review your work after the fact, but it's published immediately.
> Also here my name is right next to the text, not in wikipedia!
There's a link at the top of every page to see who wrote what text.
There is no reason for any employee to not search for unionization. It is your right and it is in your best interest. Good for them.
British have no concept of unionisation and avoid conflict at all cost. Their employer tells them they must go back to five days to the office? They all obediently do it
First part - the British invented the modern labour union and there are still many, many examples of labour union negotiation every year that are highly visible to us.
This is the same press release from the union as at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48663861 , and the same discussion points apply as there, including the fact that the press release is conflating 'Wikipedia Workers' and 'British-based employees at the Wikimedia Foundation'. The two are not the same. This conflation appears to be the fault of the union. Certainly the people who write Wikipedia well know the dif…
I used to work at a call center for a large (fortune 500) company. But that company did not sign my paychecks. It was a shell company with a different name, so that the company could not be held accountable when someone inevitably jumped from the roof. Since then accountability sinks have stood out to me. I'm going to side with the Union on this one. And plus, unions are good.