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Post by __patchbit__ »

steveBK123 wrote: post #103

It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

Apple could bridge the gap between Mac Mini Pro and HomePod Mini for the Neo to try experimental local AI configs in need of more memory and storage. The Vision Neo completes the three part environment system for students in biology or morphogenesis and robot design.

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Post by LastTrain »

HankB99 wrote: post #179
theowaway wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

except you can't. They have been out of stock for weeks

I just checked my closest Microcenters (in Illinois.) 12 in Westmont and 25+ in Chicago (for $18) Zero W were 13 and 25+ respectively at $15. Long gone are the days when they would sell a Pi Zero for $3.14 on Pi day.

Pi Zero 2 W is what people are saying is out of stock. MC doesn’t have any of them either.

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Post by kristianp »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #134
steveBK123 wrote: post #103

It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

I was recently looking for an upgrade for my aging HA Green, and I had an 8GB RPi5 with a m.2 hat, case and PSU selected, but when I checked prices I could get an 8GB Zimaboard 2 that includes 32GB eMMC for $10 more than the RPi, and that gets me a n150 processor, 2x2.5Gbit networking, 2 SATA ports and a PCIe expansion port. It idles at 5-7W. So yeah, the RPi5 has gotten prohibitively expensive, at least to the point…

And the n150 supports AVX2: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/241636/...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by baq »

xp84 wrote: post #31

This is hilarious considering you can easily[1] get a whole ARM laptop with 16GB for $425 all day, and that will also include a screen, keyboard, trackpad, battery, and storage. I first checked for Mac Minis and interestingly they are much closer to $650 for similar specs. And obviously if Intel is fine for your use case, either the N100 type of mini PC or, my preference, an off-lease HP, Dell, or Lenovo USFF PC, wou…

MacBook Neo for $600 is the only laptop under $999 worth looking at nowadays. Apple used to be the expensive premium option and they’re basically the cheapest today. What a time to be alive.

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Post by fy20 »

binarymax wrote: post #160
1-6 wrote: post #140

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The concept of a cheap new computer like an RPi for poor families is a 1st world solution that doesn't understand markets. Used computers are way more popular in countries where the price of new computers are out of reach. It's a supply chain problem, n

This was over 10 years ago, and the original price was something like £35. It was tiny, and the assumption was correct - most families had an HDMI capable TV and could afford the device and a usb keyboard. A used PC still needs a desk and a monitor. This was far more accessible.

In 2014 I bought a used RM desktop PC for my parents for £50 from eBay, which came with the tower, keyboard, mouse and all cables. I had an old monitor laying around, but again, easy to pick up if needed. They still use it today.

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Post by ge96 »

kube-system wrote: post #195
ge96 wrote: post #5

That price I'd just buy an Optiplex or something I have 4 RPi servers in my house on 24/7 but yeah Funny different purpose but I bought a 2017 Pixelbook put Ubuntu on it, great machine it was $80

Just don't get a Dell server: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-memory-upgrade-32-gb-2r...

Holy f that's crazy. No I only get the Dell optiplex 9100 or whatever plus a cheap 1050ti GPU to play older games with

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Post by geerlingguy »

justin66 wrote: post #204
NavinF wrote: post #176

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It's $37 new incl shipping on US eBay. Initial retail price was $23 incl shipping, see launch thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29025579 So a 61% price hike over 5 years, of which 24% was just inflation. If the total price really went up 200% in your country, that's exceptional and probably caused by policies unique to your country. btw you can't compare prices without shipping because there was never an o…

Weird. I can get one at the local Microcenter - with headers, the only one they're selling right now - for $18. They have a bunch in stock.

Yeah, for those with a Micro Center, the Pi pricing is in line with MSRPs. A lot of people buy from vendors on Amazon or eBay, which do not have to stick to MSRPs, and they use those prices as "gospel". Sadly, for some people, those prices are the best they can find for a shipped product in their location, so I don't blame them.

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Post by geerlingguy »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #67

This isn't exactly news, that model has been at $350 for a while. It's not like RPi suddenly introduced a 16GB model at a ridiculous price due to having forgotten about low cost stuff. The 16GB model was originally $85 iirc. Then the memory shortage hit. They could either withdraw the 16GB model (maybe screwing over some people who absolutely had to have it) or raise the price for those with urgent enough requirement…

16GB was $120 at launch. Even at that price it was a stretch and really only useful in some niches. The 4 or 8 GB models were always the best value. Now those are a bit too much, for what you get.

I still think there are good applications for the <4 GB Pi 5s, but for a lot of projects I just stick with a Pi 4 or CM4 now.

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Post by geerlingguy »

justin66 wrote: post #159
alberth wrote: post #154

Raspberry Pi as a company does ~$325M in annual revenue. But I can’t understand what are the use cases to be selling 73M units. Would anyone mind sharing what are the broadly applicable use cases, because selling 73M units is well beyond hobbyist fun. https://investors.raspberrypi.com/

They’ve been selling much more to industrial customers than hobbyists for the better part of a decade.

Consider that entire product lines for random widgets you see in every day life in the dozens or hundreds have Pis inside now. A lot of "smart" things are just the thing plus a Compute Module.

There are smart parking garage lights, smart inspection cameras, smart golf ball dispensers... all these things have enough margin they can absorb a 100-300% component increase, though I'm sure they don't like it.

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Post by imp0cat »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #134
steveBK123 wrote: post #103

It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

I was recently looking for an upgrade for my aging HA Green, and I had an 8GB RPi5 with a m.2 hat, case and PSU selected, but when I checked prices I could get an 8GB Zimaboard 2 that includes 32GB eMMC for $10 more than the RPi, and that gets me a n150 processor, 2x2.5Gbit networking, 2 SATA ports and a PCIe expansion port. It idles at 5-7W. So yeah, the RPi5 has gotten prohibitively expensive, at least to the point…

Why were you looking for a replacement/upgrade? Is your HA Green failing, or is it just too slow?

Asking as someone who is considering purchasing one (just to run HA on it, obviously).

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