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What Is a Dickover?

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Re: What Is a Dickover?

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post #155

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Running the website isn’t necessary. These people should try not running any websites for a bit. It was just fine when most websites were academic or hobby content, not businesses.

Hobby and academic sites without popups are still there. By quantity there’s likely more of them than ever.

The problem is that financially motivated websites are incentivized to make sure you land on them instead of hobby and academic sites.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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I really don’t understand why the desired cookie behavior could not be set globally for all websites in the browser. Why do I have the accept / reject them on every website and trust the website will actually do what I ask.

It can be, see Global Privacy Control [1]. As an example, the Complianz consent plugin for WordPress can detect and respect the user's GPC setting, but that feature can be toggled. So even though this exists, many sites will still ignore it. 1. https://globalprivacycontrol.org/

> GPC signal not detected.Please download a browser/extension that supports it.

Doesn’t seem to be widely adopted.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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post #93

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Best ones, when refusing, ask again on the next page. Perhaps they don't know what a functional cookie is? Maybe the marketing vocabulary only has YES?

I really don’t understand why the desired cookie behavior could not be set globally for all websites in the browser. Why do I have the accept / reject them on every website and trust the website will actually do what I ask.

Because society is full of dickheads? In a just world, it would be legal for a policeman to bludgeon anyone who does not respect a user agent's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track> setting. Second offence, hang them from the flagpole in front of the parliament building. The problem would disappear over night.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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post #93

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Best ones, when refusing, ask again on the next page. Perhaps they don't know what a functional cookie is? Maybe the marketing vocabulary only has YES?

> Maybe the marketing vocabulary only has YES? Almost! Your options are "yes" and "maybe later"... (... and "add yet another custom filter to Ublock Origin".)

> Almost! Your options are "yes" and "maybe later"...

Ah, rapist mentality. Once you see the pattern…

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Or your company could respect its users and only use cookies for essential site functions. Then you don't need a dickover.

Protecting forms with reCAPTCHA uses cookies that fall under "marketing" and gathering site stats using Google Analytics uses cookies that fall under "marketing" and "statistics," making a consent banner or dickover pretty much required. Are these services necessary for a page to work? Not at all, but many businesses consider them crucial. Unprotected public forms almost immediately start getting spammed by bots, bur…

False dichotomy, it's perfectly possible to have protection on a form without dicking over a user's basic right to privacy.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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FYI it took me 3 clicks of “next” to hit a page with a cookie dickover. Might need to tweak the filter.

Flag it please, want to think you were unlocky/page added it after inclusion. It is still a manual effort to verify them, mistakes happen. Definetely not intended.

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Re: What Is a Dickover?

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post #225

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Protecting forms with reCAPTCHA uses cookies that fall under "marketing" and gathering site stats using Google Analytics uses cookies that fall under "marketing" and "statistics," making a consent banner or dickover pretty much required. Are these services necessary for a page to work? Not at all, but many businesses consider them crucial. Unprotected public forms almost immediately start getting spammed by bots, bur…

False dichotomy, it's perfectly possible to have protection on a form without dicking over a user's basic right to privacy.

I'm very interested in any alternatives you can suggest.
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