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Flipper One – we need your help

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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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> Build the most open and best-documented ARM computer in the world, with full mainline Linux kernel support. Not even the Pi foundation could manage that. Why not go RISC-V if compatibility is the main goal? This thing does not need bleeding edge horsepower.

those stinky brits. they invented the whole arm thing just to piss rms off.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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post #172

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People hunting for AI text is reaching transvestigation levels

I have trouble understanding this. I don't see anyone complaining that we use microwaves and ovens instead of going for lit wood to cook or using search engines instead of crawling through libraries, or using Google Maps instead of using paper maps. These are tools. If output of an LLM conveys the ideas to be told, then what is the problem? Not everyone needs to be magicians with language.

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post #176

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https://gizmodo.com/the-company-behind-the-flipper-zero-hack... >> Flipper’s goal is to sell the device for around $350.

With that money going to Russia. Just sayin'. EDIT: The above is a perfectly factual statement about the Flipper. The downvotes are presumably coming from the pro-Russia bots and shills.

Where would you prefer it to go?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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This looks flippin' amazing, but also like the definition of project scope creep. I imagine it will be brilliant, unaffordable, surprisingly cheap, terrible and awesome (in both senses of the word) all at the same time. 3GPP really needs a light shining through it. I sincerely hope I work out a way of getting someone else to buy the thing for me. And the push towards all in-tree source is fantastic. Genuinely impress…

Some projects are meant to scope creep. Like this one. If the project manager of the swiss army knife had defended it from scope creep it would have 1 knife.

Which would scope creep anyway to a box of knives.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://gizmodo.com/the-company-behind-the-flipper-zero-hack... >> Flipper’s goal is to sell the device for around $350.

With that money going to Russia. Just sayin'. EDIT: The above is a perfectly factual statement about the Flipper. The downvotes are presumably coming from the pro-Russia bots and shills.

The entirety of your comment has no basis in fact.

Speaking as someone who watched the first flipper prototypes being soldered by hand.

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I'm the author of this text. It was originaly writen in a mix of russian and english WITHOUT the AI and then polished and translated by editors. Here is the original draft https://blog.flipper.net/p/b5b7e9f8-a99f-4393-bf72-23fe5a42e...

It’s a bizarre feeling isn’t it? Sorry you’re having to defend the act of thinking. The problem is you can’t defend it right? Someone could say your evidence came from a prompt: “Take this article and reverse engineer a hypothetical unpolished first draft written in a mix of Russian and English” I’m not sure what the right answer is here. Fwiw I have no doubt you wrote it unassisted.

Proving a negative is nearly impossible. "Prove you didnt use ai"... its a common argument tactic used all the time.

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The product you’re suggesting is $1400, where as the zero sold for a 1/8 of that. Do we expect the Flipper One to have such a price hike as well?

Flipper zero was an arduino with half a dozen sensor, radio and other communication modules. Flipper one is a laptop/mobile phone class system in weird form factor no doubt its going to be more expensive. No point even comparing them. You can't call it a price hike if it's completely different category of product. There have been plenty of openish tinkerer laptop/mobile phones projects to know that paying high end la…

>Flipper one is a laptop/mobile phone class system

This isn't true it's more like a modern Rasbperry Pi 5 level system with half single core performance and relatively similar multicore.

The exciting thing about the system isn't the chip it's the connectivity, form factor and extra hardware around it. But let's not pretend it's comparable to the power of phones and laptops which are way ahead.

Although with inflation and supply chain issues I'd be shocked if this ships under $450, but if they pull it off I think you'll get your moneys worth compared to comparable Pi setup.

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post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

I just long for some sort of attestation system where, if you want to use an em dash, you must first drink a verification can or eat some verification doritos to prove you are a meatbag with a digestive tract

Perhaps some proof-of-work that a human put at least as much effort into writing something as the average person would require to read it. Maybe paired with a Voight-Kampff test?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

This is a style over substance argument. At least I understand what the project is really about now. Honestly the choice here is either poorly written english or AI writing. For a technical doc like this, Ill take the AI

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#230
> So people end up running full desktop environments (KDE, GNOME, etc.) squeezed onto a tiny 7" touchscreen. It's miserable.

to add on to this: you can definitely make great UI's for small screens and unconventional controls -- Playdate [1] builds their UI around a physical crank on the device, and it feels fun to use it :)

[1] https://play.date/

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