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Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by Unicironic »

stevex wrote: post #34

I don't think that's the direction this is going to take. Replacing a mature app with an incredibly wide audience and a million use cases may or may not be possible, but what's actually happening is that people are making an app that does exactly what they want, and using it to solve their own needs. Previously you might use Excel to take raw data from various places and analyze it, create charts, reports, extract fi…

I absolutely agree with this. As someone that used to use Photoshop a lot when I was younger, But now just have a few niche use cases for it, I instead vibe-coded image editing for our blog posts exactly the way we need it. The I.e proper dimensions proper cropping, automatically generated. SEO friendly slug, etc. Sure, it's only about 1% of what Photoshop can do if that, but the reality is that unless you're a graphic designer, that's not what you need it for in your workflow anyways. AI allows you to just have a custom workflow without having to buy these massive tools that were built for a million use cases

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Post by goolz »

flohofwoe wrote: post #210
netdevphoenix wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. Anti-AI Devs/Techies have their heads in the sand or/and resorting to binary thinking when it comes to AI. No one is going to vibe code a Photoshop replacement just like no average smartphone user is going to take prize winning photographs with their phone or directly compete with professional photographs. What is going to happen is what happened to videographers and photographers and what is happening…

I have my doubts, yes there will be tinkerers who build their own apps, but this will be roughly the same crowd who today tinker with home automation, soldering or model trains as a hobby (or as Douglas Adams said: "I am rarely happier than when spending an entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand" - just replace "programming" wit…

Ya I wholly agree. The barrier to entry for new SaaS products also got really low for the KPMG-backed PE darlings of the world.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by diego_moita »

> Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

If you want to put it in such dumb terms: AlphaFold.

However, Photoshop and Excel aren't only code. They're a culture, a social environment. They are the user base that built a social environment that nurtures these products and makes them culturally relevant. This social environment can't be build in 2 years.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by quacked »

joenot443 wrote: post #211
netdevphoenix wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. Anti-AI Devs/Techies have their heads in the sand or/and resorting to binary thinking when it comes to AI. No one is going to vibe code a Photoshop replacement just like no average smartphone user is going to take prize winning photographs with their phone or directly compete with professional photographs. What is going to happen is what happened to videographers and photographers and what is happening…

> neither will the one off random app that only your household uses This reminds me a bit of the 2010s idea that every house would have a 3D printer to make one off repairs. Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer. Vibe coded apps are great, but unless they're hitting an already open API, they're effectively hermetic.…

> Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer.

They would if you could print things out of durable materials that had weight and structure. I haven't seen any 3D printers that do anything except for that light resin-plastic that feels like you could snap it easily. But if I could print a PVC section for my sink that would totally change the calculus.

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Post by [deleted] »

fnwbr wrote: post #163
bradley13 wrote: post #138

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Exactly this. I have an acquaintence who is a wine connoisseur and collector. He has done technical project management, but does not program himself. Over the course of several months, he has produced an app that manages a database of the wines he has. It's a lot more that just a CRUD-app. In addition to maintaining the obvious data (name, year, winery, notes, etc.), it can take a photo of the label, parse it, and fi…

what about the data? is it locally hosted? if he drops his phone everything will be lost? or are servers and databases involved? if so, where are they being hosted? how did he manage those? even these sorts of stories are incredibly shallow and hard to believe for me personally.

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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by Klathmon »

flohofwoe wrote: post #210
netdevphoenix wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. Anti-AI Devs/Techies have their heads in the sand or/and resorting to binary thinking when it comes to AI. No one is going to vibe code a Photoshop replacement just like no average smartphone user is going to take prize winning photographs with their phone or directly compete with professional photographs. What is going to happen is what happened to videographers and photographers and what is happening…

I have my doubts, yes there will be tinkerers who build their own apps, but this will be roughly the same crowd who today tinker with home automation, soldering or model trains as a hobby (or as Douglas Adams said: "I am rarely happier than when spending an entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand" - just replace "programming" wit…

> I don't see 'grandma' building here own calendar app via Claude Code that reminds her of the family birthdays.

If you think of apps in the traditional sense I think I agree with you, but I have a feeling things are about to become a lot more messy.

Grandma might not even know she's building her own calendar app.

I don't think we are that far from being able to ask a general purpose AI to "help me not forget my family's birthdays" and it creating and maintaining code for that purpose. Not quite an app, but more than a one off script, I think AIs are going to unlock this weird situation where they're running a bunch of barely organized code almost as an extension of thinking.

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Post by visarga »

datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #217
swader999 wrote: post #204

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I think your last half remains to be determined.

The preponderance of evidence to date would point to systems engineered by meatbags are of a significantly higher quality than vibe coded ones. My use of the word “system” is very intentional vs. something less qualifying like “program”. Edit to add: my take is proper system engineering and design basically requires general intelligence, so the bar for LLMs to reliably produce high quality systems is AGI.

It's no longer a choice. The AI is already causing changes in how competition, investors and users behave.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by netdevphoenix »

flohofwoe wrote: post #210
netdevphoenix wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. Anti-AI Devs/Techies have their heads in the sand or/and resorting to binary thinking when it comes to AI. No one is going to vibe code a Photoshop replacement just like no average smartphone user is going to take prize winning photographs with their phone or directly compete with professional photographs. What is going to happen is what happened to videographers and photographers and what is happening…

I have my doubts, yes there will be tinkerers who build their own apps, but this will be roughly the same crowd who today tinker with home automation, soldering or model trains as a hobby (or as Douglas Adams said: "I am rarely happier than when spending an entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand" - just replace "programming" wit…

Grandma likely isn't able to use most existing web apps beyond facebook, her default email client and little else either.

Uncle Bob on the other hand will stop nagging you to make him those apps you never have the time to make him and will do it himself. He is a handyman, literate and numerate and able to use a computer like most middle age folks outside of tech can. Uncle Bob's mates at the local bar will see the software he wrote and will get into it themselves.

The Gen X+ non-techie population is made up of more than just grandmas.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by skydhash »

esseph wrote: post #74
goldenarm wrote: post #54

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We've had OSS equivalents of almost everything for decades, you can install a mature Slack clone for $0 since 2015. Yet people don't because of laziness and brands are strong.

If there was a viable open source replacement for discord I would be using it today. Same goes for slack.

There’s zulip https://zulip.com/

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by visarga »

embedding-shape wrote: post #95
PunchyHamster wrote: post #89

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I don't think many people subscribe to photoshop for just occasional image edits. It's very much a tool mostly used by professionals that do a lot of it

Back in the day when a license was expensive, then yes, you either were a professional who used it a lot, or like the rest of us poors, you used a cracked copy. Nowadays though, with relatively cheap subscriptions (on a month-to-month basis at least), where the cheapest plan is like 20EUR/month or something, even if you just work part-time as some social media "take picture of food for restaurants to post on their so…

Because of that I never touched Photoshop in 25 years, since PS6 I think. I rarely need to edit images, and when I do I regret the app I once had. There's no free tier or something that makes sense for my needs. I use Gimp but its UI does not feel right.
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