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GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by anal_reactor »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #161
ReptileMan wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two ways to do diversity - the first is to put a brutal skill filter and take everyone that passes it no matter their skin color, body weight, religion or politics. The other is to reduce people to their demographics and push for (in)visible quotas. One of them leads to crappy results.

The meritocratic delusion is that you would be in the "have" pile, rather than sitting in the back of the bus with the rest of the "have nots". Of course, its statistically most likely that any individual would belong to the much larger latter group but stats like that only apply to other people, right? Worse, its a zero step thinkers solution. Step zero is a merit based system, step one is for the people with motels…

> any individual

I'm not a random variable, I'm a specific human. Predicting future outcomes need to take into account my personal traits. Otherwise you get into absurdities like "statistically speaking, when you join a family reunion, 15% of the people you see there will be Indians, and another 15% Chinese".

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Post by threecheese »

gsinclair wrote: post #127
PradeetPatel wrote: post #110

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There seems to be a massive push against DEI over the last few years in the tech industry globally, despite it being one of the industry's greatest strength. Does anyone know what caused this?

I think you need to make a case for DEI being “one of the industry’s greatest strengths”. It’s not obvious to me.

It’s easy to make an objective case for how ‘D’ is a strength, however E and I are imo more values which intend to attract diversity.

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Post by semiquaver »

Game_Ender wrote: post #146
PunchyHamster wrote: post #113

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companies using paid github are in same spot. Tho I'd imagine many already moved over

Unless you pay for enterprise then you are on the Enterprise Cloud Instance: https://us.githubstatus.com/posts/dashboard

That is the ghe.com status page, which it seems like no one actually uses, hence the good uptime. Most Enterprise Cloud customers don’t use it.

https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-cloud@latest/admin/dat...

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Post by perching_aix »

Animats wrote: post #17

Their old CREDIT values: Collaboration, Results for Customers, Efficiency, Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Iteration, and Transparency. New values: Speed with Quality, Ownership Mindset, Customer Outcomes. In other words, work harder, not smarter, and no more DEI.

I thought GitLab was a bit more respectable than this LinkedIn style slop. I cringe less at horoscopes than this.

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Post by mathgladiator »

LastTrain wrote: post #175
mathgladiator wrote: post #93

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I love wildly beyond mild inappropriate jokes as they are a litmus test for a thinking person. The people that take things way too sensitive are a net drag and buzz kill for doing the grinding required. It goes both ways too. I love it when people are agressive with me. So, by freedom of association, cliques form and I have no problem with nepotism because the ultimate currency in life is trust.

> I love it when people are agressive with me. I highly doubt it considering that you can’t even spell it right you incompetent pillar

I set myself up for that, and im laughing hard

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Post by robinhood »

Of course this is happening. Gitlab's values were only there for marketing - just take a look at their massive turnover of employees who get burn so fast they don't have time to update the About page fast enough.

Gitlab is a terrible company, period.

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Post by Terr_ »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #219
ceejayoz wrote: post #185

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It’s not like we have a term like “individual contributor” or anything in the industry. I’ve worked with several excellent “just leave me alone” sysadmin types.

> It’s not like we have a term like “individual contributor” or anything in the industry. Perhaps I'm missing something here. To me "individual contributor" means anyone who is NOT: A (technical) "Lead", "Chief", "Architect", or (possibly) "Staff" anything, and has no management or team-leader responsibilities.

Yeah, it doesn't mean a 1-person-team, it means your job doesn't include supervising someone else.

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Post by p1necone »

x0x0 wrote: post #162
Animats wrote: post #17

Their old CREDIT values: Collaboration, Results for Customers, Efficiency, Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Iteration, and Transparency. New values: Speed with Quality, Ownership Mindset, Customer Outcomes. In other words, work harder, not smarter, and no more DEI.

"Speed with Quality" Having been in some of these values meetings, I really imagine it went like this: someone wanted speed, and someone else wanted quality. Sorry, I mean Speed and Quality. Many people said there is a tradeoff between those two things, and only one thing can be first. Some brilliant businessman: "I know, we'll combine them. We want Speed _and_ Quality." Thus, "Speed with Quality." Tada! Values are a…

The funny thing is you absolutely can do things which improve both speed and quality at the same time (basic good engineering), but they're like 3 or 4 orders of effect removed from those outcomes and impossible to do when you have someone breathing down your neck asking "does this make us go faster" at every step of the way.

Also "our velocity is 3x higher than it would be in the imaginary invisible universe where we made worse decisions 6 months ago" is impossible to measure, whereas "we cut a bunch of corners and shipped a piece of garbage on an arbitrary deadline" is very measurable.

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Post by semiquaver »

looneysquash wrote: post #59

It's not clear to me from that post how they will be spending the money they'll save by firing 60% of our R&D team. Could someone explain it? If you have a lot of new stuff to build, and if you're not currently losing money, why start a new initiative with a layoff?

Tokens, I’d wager.

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Post by argee »

solid_fuel wrote: post #172
u_fucking_dork wrote: post #98

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Calling it text autocomplete is played out and really just makes you look bad at this point.

It's literally text autocomplete. You can dress it up however you want but it takes input text and outputs the most likely next sequence.

Reminds me of when microwaves first came out. Investors decided to go all in on "vibe cooking" (lit. cooking with vibrations) complete with microwave ranges (no conventional oven), until the public wizened up to the fact that there was in fact no cooking (Maillard reaction) involved in their vibe cooking. Took about 15-20 years but microwaves finally took their rightful place as a utility appliance rather than what they were touted as (a centerpiece). Pick up a microwave cookbook from the 50s for some laughs.
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