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California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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But this guy is fixated on the fact that 17% of the refineries were closed in a state where gas sales fell 17%.

It’s remarkably appropriate in a article where we are talking about a shortage…

It's a shortage of refinery inputs, not refinery capacity.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Dogs and cats were being eaten, you see. And did you hear her laugh ?

Not sure why you're being down voted, I've sadly heard those exact arguments.

Nowadays, this place is basically where Trumpers go to mingle with neo-Luddites.

I don't get it either, but that's the audience that has been cultivated.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Governments have gotten in the bad habit of acting like nothing will ever go wrong. Living paycheck-to-paycheck, so to speak. Cali not the only one suffering this fate. It doesnt matter if it's Trump's fault or not. Lets just say it is. Bad things happen. You have to be ready.

> Bad things happen. You have to be ready. You're not wrong, but also how "ready" is "ready enough"? What about things the US doesn't generally have access to? Rare earth minerals? Helium? Cobalt? Coffee? It also costs money to build the infra for storage and more money to maintain. There's always a trade-off. I think governments have done an acceptable job of being ready, but they are predicated on the assumption th…

>but also how "ready" is "ready enough"?

good question but too often what we find is "not ready at all".

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Governments have gotten in the bad habit of acting like nothing will ever go wrong. Living paycheck-to-paycheck, so to speak. Cali not the only one suffering this fate. It doesnt matter if it's Trump's fault or not. Lets just say it is. Bad things happen. You have to be ready.

Surely an example of being ready would be to electrify everything?

not good when the power goes out / grid goes down which has happened repeatedly in the past 40 yrs

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Yep, it's a low sulfur, lower volatility gasoline blend ( https://thebreakthrough.org/issues/energy/how-california-reg... ) which apparently cuts harmful exhaust emissions like carbon monoxide and NOx.

And no MTBE, IIRC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTBE_controversy

Correct, since 2002: https://arb.ca.gov/our-work/programs/gasoline

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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I began assuming long ago that Trump is just manipulating markets. Like my finances are managed under that assumption.

He was the anti corruption and anti war President and look what we got instead.

Basically wanted to stop paying for Ukraine and send the money to Israel instead
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