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The biggest differentiator for me: DeepSeek just does what I ask. I've tried using both GPT and Claude for reverse engineering recently, both refused. I even got a warning on my OpenAI account.
I've been using v4 pro for the past few days and honestly in terms of quality it seems more or less on par with open AIs 5.4 or opus 4.6 (i havent tried 4.7) To be clear, i'm not doing state of the art stuff. I mostly used it for frontend development since i'm not great at that and just need a decent looking prototype. But for my purposes it's a perfectly good model, and the price is decent. I can't wait for open mod…
You can use Tinfoil for inference, which lets you use the model in the cloud while getting similar privacy as running locally: https://tinfoil.sh/inference . Disclaimer I'm the cofounder. This works by running the model inside a secure enclave (using NVIDIA confidential computing) and verifying the open source code running inside the enclave matches the runtime attestation. The docs walk you through the verification…
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Are you kidding? Ask this question and see what answer you get: What famous photo depicts a man standing in front of a line of tanks?
Huh? Did you ever actually ask v4 this question?
The biggest differentiator for me: DeepSeek just does what I ask. I've tried using both GPT and Claude for reverse engineering recently, both refused. I even got a warning on my OpenAI account.
Speaking of this: is anyone working on binary to source decompiler models? Seems like a no brainer and I could see it working exceptionally well especially if they were fine tuned for each language. So if you can tell it’s a Go binary use a Go model, etc.
The biggest differentiator for me: DeepSeek just does what I ask. I've tried using both GPT and Claude for reverse engineering recently, both refused. I even got a warning on my OpenAI account.
> I even got a warning on my OpenAI account. This idea of software threatening the user with consequences is totally wild and dystopian. Fellow developers, what kind of world have be built? This is insanity. Imagine if my hammer told me, "Hey, you shouldn't use me on screws--only nails. Do it again and I'll self-destruct!" WTF people, stop making this kind of software!
You can still use an IDE (hammer) to reverse engineer anything you want.
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How did you use it? OpenRouter, or provider directly?
I'm guessing downvoted because OpenRouter was mentioned in the note (which may not have been there originally), but aside from that this is a perfectly legitimate question. In order to reproduce we need to know how. Was it a coding agent like opencode, an IDE, or something else?
The biggest differentiator for me: DeepSeek just does what I ask. I've tried using both GPT and Claude for reverse engineering recently, both refused. I even got a warning on my OpenAI account.
> I even got a warning on my OpenAI account. This idea of software threatening the user with consequences is totally wild and dystopian. Fellow developers, what kind of world have be built? This is insanity. Imagine if my hammer told me, "Hey, you shouldn't use me on screws--only nails. Do it again and I'll self-destruct!" WTF people, stop making this kind of software!
This idea of software built on top of reverse-engineered data threatening the user with consequences is what's really even wild and dystopian.
The biggest differentiator for me: DeepSeek just does what I ask. I've tried using both GPT and Claude for reverse engineering recently, both refused. I even got a warning on my OpenAI account.
Are you kidding? Ask this question and see what answer you get: What famous photo depicts a man standing in front of a line of tanks?
I run into Claude being a stubborn idiot about far more useful stuff all the time. And often all it takes to bypass is starting a new chat and reframing it, so it's entirely pointless hand wringing.
Then let's not forget only one of these is a paid product, and it's not the more annoying one. I feel like I can forgive DeepSeek for just obeying the laws of the country they're based in, as silly as those might be, because they're being pretty generous with the weights in the first place.
The biggest differentiator for me: DeepSeek just does what I ask. I've tried using both GPT and Claude for reverse engineering recently, both refused. I even got a warning on my OpenAI account.