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Same building on their API. You design around what you think is allowed, then a blog post shifts everything. A proper developer policy page would fix this.
Stealibg OAuth keys from first party app to impersonate it in order to not have to pay for usage with properly generated API key was never part of normal use anywhere.
Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given the lack of clear communication and the fact that their primary competitor openly supports the use of bespoke harnesses, I highly doubt this is an incorrect announcement. Anthropic is destroying goodwill that is hard-won in this space. At the end of the day, people just need to do their work in a way that makes sense for them. In my case (someone who has been building ML/AI tools for 25 years @ MS & Apple), I h…
Nobody said anything about the correctness of the announcement.
How, exactly, is that not saying something about the announcement?
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#224Whether to allow Claude subscription to access other services or not, at this point, anthropic seems to be schizophrenic, sometimes worried about insufficient computing power and sometimes worried about user loss, which is puzzling.
Almost seems like business leaders have to balance different aspirations and make tradeoffs. Unbelieveable.
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#225> Anthropic staff told us OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again Anthropic staff have had contradictive statements in Twitter and have corrected each other. Their intent for clarifications lead to confusion. > OpenClaw treats Claude CLI reuse and claude -p usage as sanctioned for this integration unless Anthropic publishes a new policy. Oh cool, so everything is back to business now, until they all or sudde…
> Switching to other providers is the best way to go, if you want to keep your insanity I remember when I’d periodically rage quit from Uber One to Lyft Pink and back again every time I had a terrible customer-service experience. In the end, I realized picking a demon and getting familiar with its quirks was the better way to go. I’m currently sticking with Claude, in part because I’m not exposed to this nonsense due…
It’s so easy to switch between all of them. I can open the Uber and Lyft apps and compare in a minute. I can run Claude and ChatGPT in parallel and see which one gets a better handle on the question. I can switch LLM providers with a few minutes of signing up for one and cancelling the other.
They all try to encourage brand lock in but it’s easy to pick up and move if you’re using them for their main service.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#226My main goal is to maximize my subscription token usage while trying to comply with the rules, but its not clear where the line is for automation so I feel like I need to be clever.
- regular development (most token use): all interactive claude mode, standard use case
- automated background development: experimenting with claude routines (first-class feature, on subscription)
- personal non-nanoclaw claude automations (claude -p): uses subscription token, but only called as needed (generally just fix something if something in my homelab infra goes does down, its set up to not fire on an exact cron time)
- other LLM based automations: usually openrouter API key, cheap models as needed
- nanoclaw: all API key based, but since its expensive I keep usage mostly minimal and try to defer anything heavyweight to one of the other automation strategies (nanoclaw mainly just connects my homelab infra with telegram)
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#228Anthropic is really trying to burn all that goodwill they worked up by raising prices, reducing limits and making it impossible to know what the actual policies are.
If you want LLMs to continue to be offered we have to get to a point where the providers are taking in more money than they are spending hosting them. And we still aren't there (or even close).
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#229Question to the sages: should that submission get flagged because of that?
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#230I got sick of the inconsistency caused by Anthropic tinkering with Claude Code and had canceled my 20x. My plan was to switch to Codex so I could use it in Pi. I am specifically talking about switching because of the harness, not model quality. Anyone else match my experience? I wonder how many other people recently did the same. It would be prudent of Anthropic to let people use Pro/Max OAuth tokens with other harne…
pi has been the better harness out of all the ones i tried, first and third party.
Ever since the Anthropic block i've just canceled all my claude subs. Used to be codex was a bit worse, now they're practically equal. Claude is slightly better at directing other agents but the difference is too minor and not worth the money.
Claude usage limits / costs are absurd.
Any 'principles' people praise anthropic for are not that relevant to me anyways because i'm not a US citizen.