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Israel escalates attacks on medics in Lebanon with deadly 'quadruple tap'

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> islam spread through voluntary conversion False. > hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion Even if this was true, which I dispute, Islam imposes all sorts of methods to oppress other religions. Like special taxes for those who aren’t Muslims. > no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today And now th…

You can dispute but you're still wrong. The majority of people under Islamic rule historically were non-Muslims but were afforded far greater rights than other societies, such as freedom or worship, protection, the right to their own laws, and the right to Islam's laws as well if they wanted. And yes, they were taxed. Muslims paid zakat, non-Muslims paid jizyah. We can't make non-Muslims pay a religious tax, so they…

Are you seriously trying to revise taxation of other religions into an “alternative” when it clearly was meant to discriminate and oppress them? The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them.

You are spreading revisionist misinformation, but it’s also so obvious and easy to disprove with a quick search. Why even try to spin it this way?

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Did you see the video that Wikileaks released, now 16 years ago, when the Apache helicopter fired on the first-responder on the the scene, a van which also included children. At that point, another voice – presumably an officer not on scene – asks if the van is “picking up the wounded” and is told that they are. Two Iraqis from the van carry the wounded man around the side of the van to load him inside. An American v…

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Please don't fulminate on Hacker News.

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This isn’t accurate. The majority of Jews in Israel are Mizrahi. The vast majority of them left the Muslim-majority countries during the Arab–Israeli conflict, in what is known as the Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries.

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Let's confirm your claim through DNA tests to establish ancestry of Israelis and Palestinians. Oh, they're banned in Israel?! Why would they possibly be banned?? Could it be that...

DNA tests aren’t banned in Israel.

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> islam spread through voluntary conversion False. > hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion Even if this was true, which I dispute, Islam imposes all sorts of methods to oppress other religions. Like special taxes for those who aren’t Muslims. > no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today And now th…

You can dispute but you're still wrong. The majority of people under Islamic rule historically were non-Muslims but were afforded far greater rights than other societies, such as freedom or worship, protection, the right to their own laws, and the right to Islam's laws as well if they wanted. And yes, they were taxed. Muslims paid zakat, non-Muslims paid jizyah. We can't make non-Muslims pay a religious tax, so they…

Jizyah wasn’t at the same rate as zakat and its rate wasn’t uniform. It was often used to humiliate, reminding non Muslims of their subordinate status under Islamic law

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Yep, and this is the obvious dishonesty of the people who single out Israel. It’s one country with a Jewish culture, where non-Jewish people also prosper in large numbers. But there are MANY officially Islamic nations where there is a state religion, where laws and religion are mixed together, and where violence/oppression of minorities is normalized and welcomed. Not a single pro-Gaza or anti-Israel activist will ac…

What’s dishonest is your racist defense of a murderous and genocidal country that cynically uses Judaism as a shield for war crimes. You should really think deeply about how you’re conflating the Zionist state with the Jewish people… not sure a lot of them are in board with your project. There is no world in which a Jewish-supremacist state is righteous. As for equal rights, it is to laugh. Israel is an apartheid sta…

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Let's confirm your claim through DNA tests to establish ancestry of Israelis and Palestinians. Oh, they're banned in Israel?! Why would they possibly be banned?? Could it be that...

DNA tests aren’t banned in Israel.

If that's true, then great! Then we can do mass ancestry tests to establish the subpopulation that is indigenous to the region of historic Palestine. Let's do it.

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> The logic is to cause difficulties for the civilian population so much that they will then turn against the militants The beatings will continue until morale improves!

"If we bomb them some more, those poor citizens will surely realize that we're on their side"

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