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So where are all the AI apps?

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Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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It is incredibly easy now to get an idea to the prototype stage, but making it production-ready still needs boring old software engineering skills. I know countless people who followed the "I'll vibe code my own business" trend, and a few of them did get pretty far, but ultimately not a single one actually launched. Anyone who has been doing this professionally will tell you that the "last step" is what takes the maj…

> It is incredibly easy now to get an idea to the prototype stage Yup. And for most purposes, that's enough . An app does not have to be productized and shipped to general audience to be useful. In fact, if your goal is to solve some specific problem for yourself, your friends/family, community or your team, then the "last step" you mention - the one that "takes majority of time and effort" - is entirely unnecessary,…

In enterprise software there is an eternal discussion of "buy vs build" and most organizations go through a cycle of:

-- we had a terrible time building something so now we're only going to buy things

-- we had a terrible time buying something so now we're only going to build things

-- repeat...

Either way you can have a brilliant success and either way you fail abjectly, usually you succeed at most but not all of the goals and it is late and over budget.

If you build you take the risks of building something that doesn't exist and may never exist.

If you buy you have to pay for a lot of structure that pushes risks around in space and time. The vendor people needs marketing people not to figure out what you need, but what customers need in the abstract. Sales people are needed to help you match up your perception of what you need with the reality of the product. All those folks are expensive, not just because of their salaries but because a pretty good chunk of a salesperson's time is burned up on sales that don't go through, sales that take 10x as long they really should because there are too many people in the room, etc.

When I was envisioning an enterprise product in the early 2010s for instance I got all hung up on the deployment model -- we figured some customers would insist on everything being on-premise, some would want to host in their own AWS/Azure/GCP and others would be happy if we did it all for them. We found the phrase "hybrid cloud" would cause their eyes to glaze over and maybe they were right because in five years this became a synonym for Kubernetes. Building our demos we just built things that were easy for us to deploy and the same would be true for anything people build in house.

To some extent I think AI does push the line towards build.

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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It's helping with that part too. I was able to configure a grafana stack with the help of claude for our ansible scripts.

That's no where near the end stage of launching a business.

It is already having impact in triaging support tickets and faster resolution using logs.

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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> It is incredibly easy now to get an idea to the prototype stage Yup. And for most purposes, that's enough . An app does not have to be productized and shipped to general audience to be useful. In fact, if your goal is to solve some specific problem for yourself, your friends/family, community or your team, then the "last step" you mention - the one that "takes majority of time and effort" - is entirely unnecessary,…

> if your goal is to solve some specific problem for yourself, your friends/family, community or your team, then the "last step" you mention - the one that "takes majority of time and effort" - is entirely unnecessary, irrelevant, and a waste of time. To a point, but I think this overstates it by quite a bit. At the moment I'm weighing some tradeoffs around this myself. I'm currently making an app for a niche interes…

People today say "web applications suck", "Electron sucks", etc. They weren't around in the 1990s where IT departments were breaking under the load of maintaining desktop apps, when we were just getting on the security update treadmill, and where most shops that made applications for Windows had a dedicated InstallShield engineer and maybe even a dedicated tester for the install process.

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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I'd take this info with a grain of salt. You have to understand how new some of these developments are. It's only been a couple of months since we hit the opus 4.5+ threshold. I created 4 react packages for kicks in a weekend: https://www.hackyexperiments.com/blog/shipping-react-librari...

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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The thing to shill now is agents.

So they are all producing products to produce products. My guess is 50% of token usage globally is to produce mediocre articles on "how I use Claude code to tell HN how I use Claude code".

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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- this would be much more insightful if the author takes the number of submissions to producthunt and the top 10 saas directories as the measure to see how many new apps were created pre AI and post AI era

- product hunt or app sumo is something i believe everyone tries to get a submission to which would truly measure how many new apps are we having per month these days

Re: So where are all the AI apps?

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all they did is annoy their friends and family by sharing their vibeslop app and asking for "feedback". I really dont know how to respond to these requests. I am going to hide out and not talk to anyone till this fad passes. Reminds of the trend where everyone was dj wanting you to listen their mixtrack they made on abbleton live

Is it really that big of a deal to help/encourage a friend/family in these simple ways?? Do you have no time in life to smell the flowers?

I sure do. I hook up Claude to my browser via MCP and have it review and give feedback for my family and friends' projects. It's a win/win.
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