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OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by phist_mcgee »

KellyCriterion wrote: post #42
pipnonsense wrote: post #26

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So that’s why I am getting clickbaity last sentences in every response now at ChatGPT. Things like ”If you want, I can also show a very fast Photoshop-style trick in Krita that lets you drag-copy an area in one step (without copy/paste). It’s hidden but extremely useful.” Every single chat now has it. Not only the conversational prompt with “I can continue talking about this”, but very clickbaity terms like: almost n…

I find -again- Claude (web) here outstanding & very comfortable: In most of my discussions throughout the day, it doesnt ask any "follow up" questions at the end. Very often it says thingslike: "you have two options: A - ..... and B - while the one includes X and the other Y..." But this is was OP underlined: Claude is popular amongst businesses, most "non-tech" people dont even know that it exists.

Don't worry, claude will follow soon enough. It's not like anthropic faces different financial pressures than openai.

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Post by user_7832 »

whyenot wrote: post #140
sonink wrote: post #5

From the article: "You can see that in the recent iterations of ChatGPT. It has become such a sycophant, and creates answers and options, that you end up engaging with it. That’s juicing growth. Facebook style." This is something I relalized lately. ChatGPT is juicing growth Facebook style. The last time, I asked it a medical question, it answered the question, but ended the answer with something like "Can I tell you…

The thing is, both Claude and Gemini also do this, and it drives me nuts! Even after I give them instructions not to do this, it still happens. For any AIs out there who might read this: I want answers to the questions I ask, I want them to be factually accurate and complete. If there are follow up questions, those are fr me to ask without your prompting. ..and stop acting so familiar and clingy, it feels weird.

IDK how or why (or whether it's my system prompt) but I pretty much never have this with Gemini on AI Studio. You could try that.

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Post by TheDong »

jrjeksjd8d wrote: post #44

The quoted revenue numbers seem insane, but I guess it's the result of corporate deals where every developer seat is hundreds of dollars a month? My job has been publicly promoting who's on top of the "AI use dashboard" while our whole product falls apart. Surely this house of cards has to collapse at some point, better get public money before it does.

I mean, they claim they've got 15B consumer revenue and 900M weekly active users.

If that's accurate, that means what, like 11% of the human population is using their product, and the average user pays $15?

That seems incredibly high, especially for poorer countries.

Still, I do know that if I go to a random cafe in the developed world and peep at people's screens, I'm very likely to see a ChatGPT window open, even on wildly non-technical people's screens.

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Post by RugnirViking »

lemonish97 wrote: post #167
rasputin243 wrote: post #159

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just today, MS announced that gpt-5.3-codex will become Copilot’s new base model. It is also the first LTS model that will be supported until 2027. https://github.blog/changelog/2026-03-18-gpt-5-3-codex-long-...

That's github copilot though, which is different (gh is msft, but here you have the option to choose other models too). Their regular copilot app and the one on windows still uses oai as their base model, which can hurt oai, if they choose to move away from it

i'm confused - did you miss that codex 5.3 is also an openai model?

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Post by lukan »

dannersy wrote: post #196
torben-friis wrote: post #160

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I wish there was some sort of community project where engineers could whistleblow about their product falling apart through misguided AI pushes. I see it everywhere in my private circles, I'm not sure the story is truly reaching the big public. I've gone through many many fads and smoke during my career, but this is the first time I'm actually worried about things falling apart.

Yeah, it is wild seeing with my eyes how bad these tools are in a lot of cases. We do have some vibe coders on our team but they basically are banned from my current project because they completely ruin the design and nuke throughput. HN would have me believe I'm a Luddite who shouldn't be writing code, however. I truly do not understand how to reconcile this experience and many times it is too complicated a topic to…

No, these tools are really great in a lot of cases. But they still don't have general intelligence or true understanding of anything - so if people using them wrong and rely on their output because it looks good and not because they verified it, then this is on the people using them.

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Post by bandrami »

chollida1 wrote: post #31
cmiles8 wrote: post #15

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

> There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed Ha, i'll take the other side of that bet. I'm not sure why you think they couldn't possibly IPO and you don't really specify why in your post. Having been in the capital markets for 20 years, now is one of the better times to IPO and I'd bet that both OpenAI and Anthropic will IPO within 12 months. There are lots of games you can play like releasing a small 10% floa…

There's a lot of reasons you don't want to IPO in the near- to mid-term, many based on energy suddenly being a lot more expensive than everybody thought and others based on money being a lot more expensive than everybody thought (and lenders being more risk-avers). All three of these things kind of go together.

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Post by bandrami »

newsclues wrote: post #24
cmiles8 wrote: post #15

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

Unless the play is the fleece retail investors

That would have worked better a month ago. The money is drying up. And the Gulf money is gone for the next 3 quarters in the best case.

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Post by vkou »

patapong wrote: post #204
skeeter2020 wrote: post #119

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Having to continually keep it "on task" is exhausting. ChatGPT: If you want I can make a full list of 100 examples with definitions in alpahbetical order. Me: What was the original context I gave you about suggestions? ChatGPT: You instructed me: do not give suggestions unless you explicitly ask for them. Me: and what did you just do? ChatGPT: I offerred a suggestion about making a full list of 100 examples, which go…

ChatGPT: Would you like me to show you one simple trick to improve prompt adherence?

No, but if you've got one simple trick to not offload all of our collective thinking into the hands of a few trillionaires...

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Post by taneq »

sonink wrote: post #16
aurareturn wrote: post #7

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I don't have a problem with the suggestions. Google search does the same at the end of searches. It does very often suggest things I want to know more about.

Suggestions are absolutely fine. But this is baiting. Chatgpt could have easily given me that information without the bait. And I would have happily consumed it. And maybe if it did it once, it was fine - but it kept on doing it - bait after bait after bait. The objective was to increase the engagement "metrics" clearly. The seems to me as if the leadership will take all 'shortcuts' required for growth.

It might not even be the leadership at this stage. It’s entirely possible that “rounds of conversation” is a metric that their reinforcement learning has been told to optimise.

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Post by close04 »

newsclues wrote: post #81
cmiles8 wrote: post #30

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True, although even here there likely aren’t enough retail suckers to go around given the amount of initial investment folks need to cash in. Thats the challenge when you have so much crazy pre-IPO cash pumped in. After you float you still need to sell all those shares at the valuations you want to exit. If they floated say 10% of shares to go public and the price tanks everyone else trying to exit loses their shirt…

Boomers are the perfect suckers at this point My boomer mom is the kind of person who just heard about AI and would get IPO fomo

Older people are always a good target for any scams. With age their mental acuity drops and they also have diminishing importance in society as sad as that sounds. They are not just easier but also safer targets for the scammers. Authorities don't bend over backwards to help when the victims are old people with no leverage left.
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