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You can fix this by emailing the mods, but otherwise - thanks for the correction

I sorry I opened my mouth. I swear I'll never do this ever again. Please PLEASE forgive me.

Damn, keep it together... Or you're just trolling because you received one downvote.

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This is a loaded explanation. Yes, war does require quick response, which is hard to achieve in a decentralized state. The small nuance is that war or similar events are comprising a tiny fraction of what a government does (not by impact, but by total amount of things to do). And guess what, direct voting is just fine and fast enough for such thinks as any and all taxes, industry wide restrictions or permissions, eco…

> And guess what, direct voting is just fine and fast enough for such thinks as ... economic focus, foreign policy, immigration, ... How would 2 countries wirh direct voting negotiate a trade treaty that requires give and take? Have a referendum on each proposed clause modification? How long would that take? Even though you dislike it, representative democracy is a necessary optimization, which is why every surviving…

There is no country with direct voting (aka democracy) since Ancient Greece. Swiss are close and they are alone. But I wish that such a country existed.

Also, I didn't say that ALL decisions needs to be directly voted upon by the whole population. But core concepts should be. And there should be a mechanism to surface people's concerns to a referendum level too, e.g. after getting a certain amount of signatures or votes. Getting to your question, people can decide in general, do they want to join a trade treaty with countries a, b, c and that should be enough I think, at least for the early form of such democracy.

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Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty Dumpty had a great fall All the king's horses and all the king's men Couldn't put Humpty together again -- It's going to take a lot of glue to try to put the United States together again. Breaking things is easy, and the Trump administration absolutely excels at it. The White House, some buildings (some occupied) in Iran, the economy, the cohesion in so far as there still was any le…

I'm not convinced Humpty will come together again at all. The US population doesn't seem to care nearly enough to effectuate change while the regime talks about brown shirts at polling stations, delayed elections, Fed oversight of ballots, and preventing married women from voting. Our relationships have crumbled and there's no reason to trust us: friend or foe. We're ramping up debt harder than ever, we've made touri…

> I'm not convinced Humpty will come together again at all

Agreed, that's sort of the point of the rhyme. You can break stuff far easier than that you can make or repair stuff.

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No but the direct statements from the FED itself that it was trying to hurt labor and reduce average household spending was very clear

Fed, not "FED". It isn't an acronym. The point I was making was labor has something to lose in any interest rate environment.

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Fed, not "FED". It isn't an acronym. The point I was making was labor has something to lose in any interest rate environment.

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I think it's relevant. If you don't even know "FED" isn't an acronym the rest of your "points" about interest rates are a bit suspect.

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I don't think there was as much pushback about his policy as much as there was discontent with an economic slowdown and a somewhat ironic (considering where we find ourselves) frustration with his age.

Well there was a lot of people, especially on the dem side of the spectrum, who weren't a fan of his public unwavering support of the genocide of the Palestinian people. Internal investigations within the party allegedly agree with this analysis. But yes, people dislike Biden for a lot of things he didn't deserve to be disliked for, such as inflation which was caused by COVID and Trump and which Biden did a fantastic…

People who did not like the situation in the middle east did not vote for trump thinking it would improve things.

Because we have a true dichotomy I don't think it's reasonable to assume that trump had any sort of "policy" win there

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I think it's relevant. If you don't even know "FED" isn't an acronym the rest of your "points" about interest rates are a bit suspect.

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I think it's relevant. If you don't even know "FED" isn't an acronym the rest of your "points" about interest rates are a bit suspect.

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It takes two to tango. Every progressive I know would be thrilled to stop with the culture war BS. However, MAGA refuses to just let people live their lives the way they want.

> Every progressive I know would be thrilled to stop with the culture war BS. However, MAGA refuses to just let people live their lives the way they want. Are you using some nonstandard definition of "progressive" and "MAGA", or do you genuinely have the belief that the left wing is closer to the center majority of this country in "culture war" matters than the right wing?

I don't believe that the "center majority" matters. People have a right to live their lives even if the "center majority" disagrees. At one point the "center majority" thought that slavery was alright, that didn't make them right.
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