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Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by thinking_cactus »

rauljordan2020 wrote: post #42

So many folks that have it say things like "I was super healthy! Did exercise, young, don't drink, etc." Then you dig deeper and realize the last vegetable meal they ate was a soggy brussel sprout their mom made them when they were 17 years old, and also eat cold cut turkey sandwiches every lunch because they're "healthy", and maybe have a tiny shred of lettuce in the sandwich. For breakfast, they eat pancakes or sug…

I wonder the flipside as well. I'm extremely confident a healthy vegeterian or vegan diet will be generally a bit healthier than a meat-heavy alternative. But I believe you can overdo it too, like if you eat enormous amounts of hard raw foods and leaves with low calories that might not be all that great for your gut either? (our gut is probably adapted to eating cooked stuff).

My armchair recommendation: avoid processed foods (but you can have processed if you're really confident what goes in isn't harmful or just very occasional I guess), eat a good amount of salads and veggies alongside some cooked main course, like beans, rice, tofu, etc.. Eat some fruits throughout the day, and a reasonable amount of water. Chew your foods well. Exercise, bla bla bla, you know the drill ;)

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by twodave »

ifwinterco wrote: post #131
slibhb wrote: post #115

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Can you link the data? I don't buy it. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11720530/ says there's a higher rate of AF in older, male althetes but a lower risk of stroke compared to similar aged, non-athletes. At any rate, the data doesn't seem clear enough to claim that "distance running bad for you" or "any distance over 50K is bad for you".

I'm struggling to find it but I definitely remember reading a paper that claimed that aerobic exercise in over 60s decreased heart attack risk (which is good, obviously) but increased stroke risk. I think the biggest risk though is acutely doing high intensity exercise (e.g. a marathon) whereas doing low intensity regular exercise (e.g. a 5k jogged at moderate pace 4x a week) is probably good. So it's not "running is…

This reads like it was written by a person who has never seriously trained at distance running. The vast majority of such training happens in Z1/2 and is some of the healthiest motion you can put your body through. People die doing lots of things, and many other sports besides running, usually because they had another condition or disorder.

And besides, I'd much rather have a stroke and drop dead at like 70 or 75 having enjoyed an active life than deal with all the health risks and low quality of living associated with being sedentary.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by twodave »

albatross79 wrote: post #181
slibhb wrote: post #78

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Claiming that distance running is unhealthy is wild. It can lead to injury, and there's such thing as overtraining. But to claim that it's broadly unhealthy is just wrong

Why wouldn't it be, you think the body was made to run all day? Most animals lay around all day with some bursts of activity. The exercise fad is just a peculiar neuroticism modern Westerners have.

No, distance running is how early humans survived. We are uniquely composed to be able to run down just about any animal we'd want to eat.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by Jerrrrrrrry »

boringg wrote: post #215
staticassertion wrote: post #211

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lol this is such utter bullshit? I'm blown away by how confidently stated and how utterly incorrect this is. 1. Ancient egyptians ate fucktons of wheat and barley, lentils, chickpeas, etc. They ate massive amounts of fiber lol I mean holy fuck I just can't believe how wrong you are? 2. Fiber is very, very well understood by ALL health organizations to be preventative for colon cancer.

You shouldn't feed the trolls.

You should follow the HN rules.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by Jerrrrrrrry »

staticassertion wrote: post #211
Jerrrrrrrry wrote: post #210

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99% of humans ate meat, amd fruits occasionally. Fiber does nothing.

lol this is such utter bullshit? I'm blown away by how confidently stated and how utterly incorrect this is. 1. Ancient egyptians ate fucktons of wheat and barley, lentils, chickpeas, etc. They ate massive amounts of fiber lol I mean holy fuck I just can't believe how wrong you are? 2. Fiber is very, very well understood by ALL health organizations to be preventative for colon cancer.

Ancient Egyptians is less than 10,000 years ago.

Homo genus is 2 million years old.

Repeating "muh authorities" isnt an argument.

Your willful axiomatic dogmatism isnt science.

Cave paintings dont depict agriculture. They depicted hunting and agrarian nomadic lifestyles

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by apple4ever »

array_key_first wrote: post #205
cm2012 wrote: post #103

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The correlation to any of that stuff and cancer is basically meaningless in the scale of one persons life

It's not at all. Red meat is carcinogenic, processed red meats more so. Processed meats are, too. If you want to reduce your risk of cancer, your best bets are quitting smoking, stopping drinking, eating less meat, and exercising more. Drinking, like, diet cola is nothing next to those. We know, without a doubt, tobacco, alcohol, and processed meats cause cancer.

There is nothing wrong with red meat, it certainly isn't carcinogenic.
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