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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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post #9

Also please don't post accusations of comments reeking of AI.

You're absolutely right! Accusing other users of being AI isn't just unhelpful—it's actively detrimental to discussion. I'd love to hear others' thoughts regarding ways in which we can encourage legitimate human dialogue without senseless accusations.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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post #40

I think using AI for a bit more potent spellchecking or style hints is... fine, honestly. I don't usually do it, you can tell from all the silly spelling mistakes I do. But a bit more polishing for your posts is a good thing, not a bad one, as long as it doesn't hide your voice.

The problem is it always hides your voice. Always

An LLM telling me I mispeled a word isn't changing my voice. Especially when I know the proper spelling and simply have a typo.

An LLM telling me I omitted a qualifier and that my statement isn't saying what I meant it to say isn't changing my voice - it's ensuring what you see is my voice.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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I’m not sure I agree with this, because sometiems it is difficult to figure out the correct way to phrase an idea that is in your head and I like to use ai to help organize my thoughts even though the thing is my own. That being said. Most of my comments are not ai generated.

The intent of this rule is to avoid the very common AI tropes that have been increasingly common in HN comments. Using AI as an organizational tool isn't inherently against the rules, but just copy/pasting output from ChatGPT without human oversight is.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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The only question is is the entity interesting and/or correct. Those properties are in the eye of the beholder. If they're human or not is beside the point. After all, no one knows I'm a dog.

No, those properties are tied to the state of mind and experiences of the human, dog, or LLM behind any given comment. When someone posts: > You could use Redis for that, sure, I've run it and it wasn't as hard as some people seem to fear, but in hindsight I'd prefer some good hardware and a Postgres server: that can scale to several million daily users with your workload, and is much easier to design around at this…

> then the beholder is trusting not just the correctness of that one sentence but all of the experiences and insights from the author.

This is my point.

There is no sane endgame here that doesn't end up with each user effectively declaring who they do and don't care to hear, and possibly transitively extend that relationship n steps into the graph. For example you might trust all humans vetted by the German government but distrust HN commenters.

For now HN and others are free to do as they will (and the current AI situation has been intolerable), however, I suspect in the near future governments will attempt to impose their own version of it on to ever less significant forums, and as a tech community we need to be thinking more clearly about where this goes before we lose all choice in the matter.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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post #114

What if English is my second language? Undoubtedly being well spoken is associated with higher class. Your arguments will come of as stronger to the reader.

That'd be a "style-over-substance" fallacious argument. Or one could be hoping for a halo-effect to cloud the reader's opinion of their comment because some piece of software made it read like Enron-marketing-hogwash-speak.

Sometimes the style is the substance. There is a reason people study rhetoric.
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