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Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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spelling , especialy spelling, is weaponised by those who have self institutionalised, in order to censor the speach and thought of those who have those capabilities,

but even then, as the man once said, "there are things that can only be expressed with an inflatable giraffe filled with whipped cream"

Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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There's also the British penchant for deliberately mispronouncing French words. I have heard "renaissance" pronounced "reh-NAY-sance", "fillet" pronounced "fill-it", "valet" as "val-it" and so on. I think it's a national point of pride to pronounce the words of their neighbor incorrectly.

America is at least as guilty of mispronouncing non-english words it's just natural drift. As to fillet and valet, they joined english before the contemporary french pronunciation, and are much closer to the middle-french.

I’ve always said that one key difference between British English and American English is that a British speaker will intentionally mispronounce a foreign word, while an American will attempt to pronounce it correctly but get it wrong anyway.

Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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No, "gh" is usually silent in English spelling.

augh is not as common as ough, but either one can make any sound in the whole syllabary. How about Sequim, WA. Guess how to pronounciate that.

Or Puyallup, WA. Those two are definite shibboleth tests in the PNW.

Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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> But in another instance, Epstein was critical of misspelling. A contact forwarded the sex offender his daughter’s college application in 2013. “I wish you had let me review before sending…the grammatical errors and spelling mistakes will make it at least harder for early admission,” Epstein wrote. It is funny that spelling and grammar matter more when writing to an admissions officer than to a potential business pa…

Also just differing levels of relevance. You don't talk with a businessman or investor or famous people in general because of their writing; if you made a list of relevant skills, 'proper spelling when quickly texting from a phone' surely doesn't crack even the top ten thousand skills. In academia, on the other hand, writing a formal application properly is a core skill.

If you were applying to YC, would you capitalize the answers to their questions?

Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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Plymouth -> plee-mooth not ply-mouth

I hope you aren't talking about the one in Massachusetts which is not pronounced either of those ways

No, im talking about this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_(software)

Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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Plymouth -> plee-mooth not ply-mouth

Outsider! :-) More like PLIM-uth. I guess there is no way to write it unambiguously in English

Not outsider - non-native speaker.

Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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British aristocracy has been pronouncing their own surnames wrong for centuries on purpose. Cholmondeley is "Chumley" Featherstonehaugh is "Fanshaw." If you read it phonetically you mark yourself as an outsider. The misstake is the membership card. (Heck, even in Portland we locals hear about misprouncing Couch St probably every year in local press as some bar for membership to our own locals only vibe.)

There's also St. John, which for some odd reason is pronounced as sinjin.

https://old.reddit.com/r/madmen/comments/12i3n9o/why_is_sain...

Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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nowadays, if you have correct spelling and grammar people accuse you of being an llm.

I end all of my sentences with periods and I was told that I have a negative attitude at work because of it. Seriously, my manager's advice was to stop ending my sentences with periods.

You should consider finding other employment or at least another manager. If this is an example of how you are being evaluated in that organization, it can only get worse.

Re: Why the global elite gave up on spelling and grammar

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British aristocracy has been pronouncing their own surnames wrong for centuries on purpose. Cholmondeley is "Chumley" Featherstonehaugh is "Fanshaw." If you read it phonetically you mark yourself as an outsider. The misstake is the membership card. (Heck, even in Portland we locals hear about misprouncing Couch St probably every year in local press as some bar for membership to our own locals only vibe.)

Did they? The article[1] seem to be in contradiction to the claim. For centuries it was rather easy to distinguish aristocracy without lingustic conspiracies. I'm really not an expert in British surnames however I know for sure that pop history is full of invented "fun facts" which are not true but persist cause they sound cool.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Featherstonhaugh

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