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Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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> seemingly bright idea i disagree about that one. im not a UX expert by any means but my first impression at WWDC seeing liquid glass was "holy shit, they pulled that off? i know apple would never compromise on legibility, so... how? there are so many situations where this won't work, and they can't exactly control the content that the buttons are overlaid on top of" cue my confusion when it was exactly that: an obv…

I think a primary concern when Apple evolves their new design language nowadays is competitive differentiation. Because so many people try to clone their UI, they seek to add visual elements like frosting, glass, squircles, etc. that are difficult or impossible to achieve in competing platforms. Gradually others catch up and they need to evolve it again. Liquid Glass seems like an aesthetic choice made purely for the…

> I think a primary concern when Apple evolves their new design language nowadays is competitive differentiation.

Same as Google's Material Design. Both are bloody stupid, in their own distinct way.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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This one really bothers me. Whenever maximizing or tiling my windows (which is all the time), I see multiple layers of oddly rounded corners. I think if there's any upside to Tahoe, the grievances may push me into blogging for the first time ever, because I can't keep these to myself. I actually feel sorry for Apple's developers because there's no way you ship software this bad and inconsistent unless you've been han…

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It's incredibly ugly, part of the value of Apple was esthetics. Also it's distracting, when I want to focus on something I want distracting elements to get out of the way.

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This was one of the very few advantages of moving from Linux => MacOS, that at least most of the software was beautiful and consistent by default. I'm saddened to see that this is not true anymore. Been holding the Tahoe upgrade, and might just keep my macbook air m1 much longer than originally intended because of this.

I've started using Linux recently after not touching a desktop distro for 20-odd years, and I was surprised how good both Gnome and KDE look these days. It certainly doesn't feel like there's a trillion-dollar-company difference between those two and Tahoe.

Same! I hadn't touched Linux since 2005-06. I've been trying out Niri and Noctalia. I've been pleasantly surprised how close I'm able to get to match most of what I do on a Mac.

I haven't had this much fun with computers in years. It has certainly helped with my Tahoe grief.

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"In 2015, Dye became the head of Apple's user interface design team" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dye

"Dye also contributed greatly to the design language of iOS 7 in 2013. In 2015, Dye became the head of Apple's user interface design team. In 2022, he played an integral role in the creation of the Dynamic Island, a feature on iPhones and then in 2025, he led the design of Liquid Glass." Left for Meta in Dec 2025. Hopefully things normalize a bit? Wishful thinking, I suppose.

I imagine it will take a while to turn a ship this big, even if they are willing (yet to be seen).

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I wish too but they can't just back up, that would be a very bad sign for investors.

Why? What happened to the magic bar? There are many things Apple changed their minds on. I won’t be surprised if there is a rollback in 27 (i’m hoping there will be - else going to buy a retro mac with a magic bar upon no tahoe runs).

They can't frame it as a rollback at least. Have to sync it up with a new OS release or something as the "new" best thing

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The rounded corners are dumb in general. When you maximise the window, you have rounded corners meaning you see the background behind them near the menu bar and bottom. Because the screen has no rounded corners.

When you maximise, make it have straight corners (at the very least at the top), this is just ridiculous

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I’ve come around to Tahoe. Liquid Glass isn’t my favorite, but the tinted appearance setting largely fixes most of my gripes. I suspect this will become the default. They just need to keep tweaking and it will be fine. Most users that don’t lurk on tech forums really enjoy the look.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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This one really bothers me. Whenever maximizing or tiling my windows (which is all the time), I see multiple layers of oddly rounded corners. I think if there's any upside to Tahoe, the grievances may push me into blogging for the first time ever, because I can't keep these to myself. I actually feel sorry for Apple's developers because there's no way you ship software this bad and inconsistent unless you've been han…

They obviously have been cutting corners.

This made my spin my head right round.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Apple is no longer about Jobs' "simplicity as the ultimate sophistication". It feels like a bunch of kids with no proper design education competing for the security of their salaries. Apple is dead without Steve. The company has no focal point. They're running solely on the inertia from Mac OS X and the first generations of the iPhone.

That's a pretty extreme take. I've been using the Mac since about 2001. I like Tahoe and a well designed Tahoe app can look really nice on the platform. There are bugs, inconsistencies and other issues, but it doesn't feel that different than many previous macOS / OS X releases

You've been a Mac user since the original candy iMacs and you don't see the company design ethos slipping in the last five years?
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