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Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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A couple years back John Reilly posted on HN "How I ruined my SEO" and I helped him fix it for free. He wrote about the whole thing here: https://johnnyreilly.com/how-we-fixed-my-seo Happy to do the same for you if you want. The quickest win in your case: map all the backlinks the .net site got (happy to pull this for you), then email every publication that linked to it. "Hey, you covered NanoClaw but linked to a fak…

Lame to have to do all this pointless busy work just to "win" the SEO battle.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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I was actually excited reading this comment because I thought it might have some information useful to my site's SEO and then I realized it was written by an LLM. Can anyone confirm what it's saying?

I'm not the person you're replying to but I'm familiar with what they're talking about. Fair warning, while I've experimented with this, I wouldn't endorse them as strongly as the commenter and don't think I'd use a phrase like 'the shift is real' (unless I was trying to annoy my child).

If I were you, I would start with some documentation:

https://schema.org/docs/gs.html

https://schema.org/SoftwareApplication

https://schema.org/Organization

The first link will get you started - it will explain what the commenter was talking about in detail. The second and third links will give you more information on those specific types.

Good luck with your site!

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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I pay for Kagi to get better search results. Lately, I’ve felt that Kagi’s search has been just as full of low-information and AI generated results as Google. I’ve been wondering why I’m still paying for it. This seemed like a good litmus test. Unfortunately, Kagi displays pretty much the same results as Google for nanoclaw.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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I did some experimenting using different search engines and AIs. Here's the results: Google and Brave linked to the official GitHub repo followed by the fake domain. DuckDuckGo and Bing linked to the fake domain first, followed by the official GitHub. Mojeek gave higher ranking to two third party articles, but linked to both the official GitHub and website without fakes. Qwant was the worst, as the official website w…

How did you prompt the AIs?

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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I pay for Kagi to get better search results. Lately, I’ve felt that Kagi’s search has been just as full of low-information and AI generated results as Google. I’ve been wondering why I’m still paying for it. This seemed like a good litmus test. Unfortunately, Kagi displays pretty much the same results as Google for nanoclaw.

I don’t like any search engines now :(

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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@Gavriel if you're here, have you looked into filing a trademark for NanoClaw? Once you have a registered mark (or even a pending application), you get much stronger leverage with domain registrars, Cloudflare, and Google for takedowns.

UDRP disputes become straightforward when you can show the other party registered a domain using your mark in bad faith. It won't fix the Google ranking overnight, but it gives you real legal teeth beyond just SEO whack-a-mole.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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I pay for Kagi to get better search results. Lately, I’ve felt that Kagi’s search has been just as full of low-information and AI generated results as Google. I’ve been wondering why I’m still paying for it. This seemed like a good litmus test. Unfortunately, Kagi displays pretty much the same results as Google for nanoclaw.

Yeah that's increasingly been my feeling as well. I have to keep prefacing my Kagi recommendations with, "web search is less and less useful every year, but..."

I still appreciate being able to customize rankings, bangs, and redirects. But with how utterly shit the web is overall, any web search is basically only good if you know the site(s) the answer(s) will be on. When you're searching for something novel-to-you, even Kagi is just going to show you a full page of unregulated slop on the dumbest, just-registered-this-year domains. Real information is increasingly limited to small islands of trust.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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post #225

I pay for Kagi to get better search results. Lately, I’ve felt that Kagi’s search has been just as full of low-information and AI generated results as Google. I’ve been wondering why I’m still paying for it. This seemed like a good litmus test. Unfortunately, Kagi displays pretty much the same results as Google for nanoclaw.

I don’t like any search engines now :(

It's because the search engine is being eaten by the LLM. I'm not suggesting that it's a perfect substitute. It's just what I feel is happening.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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I don’t like any search engines now :(

It's because the search engine is being eaten by the LLM. I'm not suggesting that it's a perfect substitute. It's just what I feel is happening.

more like LLM garbage are rotting search engines from the inside out

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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I pay for Kagi to get better search results. Lately, I’ve felt that Kagi’s search has been just as full of low-information and AI generated results as Google. I’ve been wondering why I’m still paying for it. This seemed like a good litmus test. Unfortunately, Kagi displays pretty much the same results as Google for nanoclaw.

I hadn't really noticed anything like this until you pointed it out. My main use for Kagi is to pin Wikipedia results... I just tried searching for "nanoclaw" on Kagi (I'm in the UK so results biased towards there) and got:

1. nanoclaw[dot]net (!)

2. github.com/qwibitai/nanoclaw which looks like a ripoff?

3. Three videos, at least one of which looks like slop with crypto ads

4. github.com/gavrielc/nanoclaw which I presume is the real repo judging from the name?

5. Three "interesting finds" the top one of which is nanoclaw.dev, but with the title "Don't trust AI agents" because it's a blog post from that site

6. A fork of the qwibitai/nanoclaw repo

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