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Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Apple needs a 50% purge in headcount. Yes, they have so much money they don't need to but the organizational bloat there is on another level. The issues brought up in the article have been going on for decades and the right people are needed to address these things.

Not sure how "purging" the headcount is supposed to fix all the problems.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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I'm sorry but if your out is linux and windows because you're not happy how stuff doesn't "just work" in the Apple ecosystem boy are you in for a bad surprise. However bad you think Apple is getting with MacOS - windows is getting worse. And Linux ? Good luck getting decent hardware that will run without having basic functionality issues. Queue the linux brigade "my PC works perfect, what linux issues are you having"…

The problem isn't that MacOS doesn't work, it's that MacOS doesn't work _and_ you can't fix the things that don't work. You can anticipate "the linux brigade" because it works well for many of us. This isn't to say there _aren't_ problems. Bluetooth, audio, etc. working all depend on having the luck that someone wrote good drivers for the device you want to install Linux on. When you do have a problem, you don't have…

You fix something then the next system update breaks everything. Depending on the machine mood and what I'm currently running slack/chrome will crash while attempting to screen share. Audio routing will get messed up randomly every time I need to use a DAW.

Sorry but the level of stuff that Apple users complain about when they say "not working" is not comparable to the level of unreliability of linux for me - it's not even in the same class of reliability - Apple users are just spoiled and rightfully mad about the platform quality deteriorating.

I'm not a Linux noob, I've been running linux desktop on and off for a long time (I remember ordering the free Ubuntu CD's and having to go to customs with my father at 14-15 so over 20 year probably - holly shit time flies). The last attempt was like a year ago for two months. Linux is still very much a hobby you pick up to run your computer for me and every colleague I see using it just confirms this even if they won't admit it (issues connecting to calls, unmuting, turning on camera, etc.). Like I'm annoyed that I can't use HDMI 2.1 via my USB 4 dock on Mac because it doesn't support some protocol, on Linux HDMI 2.1 on my AMD card is a no go from the start (unless I want to go with some random dude unofficial kernel driver patches).

I still use my desktop as SSH workstation and run arch on it, but my client is MacOS - I just need something that works reliably for everyday productivity tasks.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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post #81

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I'm sorry but if your out is linux and windows because you're not happy how stuff doesn't "just work" in the Apple ecosystem boy are you in for a bad surprise. However bad you think Apple is getting with MacOS - windows is getting worse. And Linux ? Good luck getting decent hardware that will run without having basic functionality issues. Queue the linux brigade "my PC works perfect, what linux issues are you having"…

We seem to have a world where neither Linux, nor MacOS, nor Windows "just work". None of them have meaningful support channels for individuals. All of them have issues. They're very similar in these ways. The first of these systems is actionable: When it doesn't work, it can generally be made to work. The whole journey may be an awful affair for the entire duration, but a person can usually (not always!) get there. T…

The category of things that don't "just work" on a Mac for me compared to Linux and even Windows is just a class apart. You can't compare shared buffers between phones being flaky or using face time on PC to answer calls from iphone being glitchy to my browser crashing when I try to screenshare, repeatedly, on linux.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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> [on windows 11] my network samba shares stay connected and mounted through restarts. I could never make this work reliably on macOS. It’s wild to me that Apple has allowed SMB on MacOS to be so broken/slow and poorly implemented for so long. It’s been this way for over a DECADE. I have friends who work at production studios who complain about network storage and MacOS all the time given any modern video workflow in…

> It’s wild to me that Apple has allowed SMB on MacOS to be so broken/slow… Is 1100+ MB/sec read and write (single 10 GbE interface) slow?

Now try to do something as simple as loading 100 video thumbnails in finder.

If you’ve never used SMB on a windows machine you have no idea. On windows it feels like an extension of the local disk.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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I have been a Mac user since the classic mac days. I waited in line for the first iPhone. macOS/iOS 26 are bad enough that I've begun switching to Linux. I preordered a Clicks Communicator and Pebble Round 2. Switching from a Macbook Pro M4 to an Asus ROG Flow Z13 with Debian. macOS 26.3 updated clang and broke my emscripten workflow. I tried to unrar a file but the version of unrar provided in homebrew is deprecated…

I used to be on Year of Linux Desktop camp a few years ago with M$ on my email signatures and all, nowadays I rather take Windows and macOS, leaving GNU/Linux for Raspberry PI and servers, even with all the ongoing warts than the endless count of distros on Distrowatch, there is always that pain point that takes weekends to sort out, e.g. having a BRIX UEFI booting the desired distro, like I had to last year.

> My son wanted to try a Java minecraft app on his iPhone, but it required insane workarounds to enable JIT to get acceptable performance. This isn't a technical limitation, it's put in place specifically to protect Apple's walled garden, and their precious services revenue.

This would also not work properly in Android, because it is Android Java, not standard Java.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

#227

I have been a Mac user since the classic mac days. I waited in line for the first iPhone. macOS/iOS 26 are bad enough that I've begun switching to Linux. I preordered a Clicks Communicator and Pebble Round 2. Switching from a Macbook Pro M4 to an Asus ROG Flow Z13 with Debian. macOS 26.3 updated clang and broke my emscripten workflow. I tried to unrar a file but the version of unrar provided in homebrew is deprecated…

> macOS 26.3 updated clang and broke my emscripten workflow.

This is actually strange since Emscripten comes with its own Clang toolchain and shouldn't use anything from the system's toolchain (I'm also on 26.3 and haven't seen any behaviour changes in my dev setup).

FWIW, I'm also not a fan of the UI changes in Tahoe, but I mostly just move between the terminal (via Ghostty), VSCode and Chrome, so for the most part I'm blissfully unaware of the UI wreckage ;)

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We seem to have a world where neither Linux, nor MacOS, nor Windows "just work". None of them have meaningful support channels for individuals. All of them have issues. They're very similar in these ways. The first of these systems is actionable: When it doesn't work, it can generally be made to work. The whole journey may be an awful affair for the entire duration, but a person can usually (not always!) get there. T…

The category of things that don't "just work" on a Mac for me compared to Linux and even Windows is just a class apart. You can't compare shared buffers between phones being flaky or using face time on PC to answer calls from iphone being glitchy to my browser crashing when I try to screenshare, repeatedly, on linux.

I absolutely can compare these things. I don't even have to move any goalposts.

- shared buffers between phones being flaky: Can't fix. Acceptance-only.

- using face time on PC to answer calls from iphone being glitchy: Can't fix. Acceptance-only.

- my browser crashing when I try to screenshare, repeatedly, on linux: Can fix. I don't have to accept this.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The category of things that don't "just work" on a Mac for me compared to Linux and even Windows is just a class apart. You can't compare shared buffers between phones being flaky or using face time on PC to answer calls from iphone being glitchy to my browser crashing when I try to screenshare, repeatedly, on linux.

I absolutely can compare these things. I don't even have to move any goalposts. - shared buffers between phones being flaky: Can't fix. Acceptance-only. - using face time on PC to answer calls from iphone being glitchy: Can't fix. Acceptance-only. - my browser crashing when I try to screenshare, repeatedly, on linux: Can fix. I don't have to accept this.

1. and 2. are never even an options on linux - there's probably some way but the effort/payoff is basically a nogo. On apple I get those by default just by using the same apple id on the devices. It's not a principled comparison but a practical one between using these systems.

Again if you're coming from MacOS and expect Linux to be better at "just works" you're in for a bad surprise.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely can compare these things. I don't even have to move any goalposts. - shared buffers between phones being flaky: Can't fix. Acceptance-only. - using face time on PC to answer calls from iphone being glitchy: Can't fix. Acceptance-only. - my browser crashing when I try to screenshare, repeatedly, on linux: Can fix. I don't have to accept this.

1. and 2. are never even an options on linux - there's probably some way but the effort/payoff is basically a nogo. On apple I get those by default just by using the same apple id on the devices. It's not a principled comparison but a practical one between using these systems. Again if you're coming from MacOS and expect Linux to be better at "just works" you're in for a bad surprise.

> On apple I get those by default just by using the same apple id on the devices. It's not a principled comparison but a practical one between using these systems.

Right. That's why you're complaining about how they don't work.

Anyway, I never suggested that Linux is better at "just works."

Instead, I suggested that -all- of them have issues and further posited that, on Linux, those issues are actionable.

I am disinclined to defend a position that I do not hold.

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