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Re: Obsidian Sync now has a headless client

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This will save me the overhead of running it in a docker container (I think it used mono or something) so that’s cool. I am still split using Evernote mostly because the experience feels a little more purpose built. I have some annoying usability issues with Obsidian. Control-N starts a new note not in the folder I’m in, but at the top level. Then I have to go move it by hand. Having multiple vaults open winds up wit…

"obsidian shows them as markdown" = try editor settings ("Live Preview") in terms of embedded vaults, I agree there should be better native support -- but I was also delighted to discover Relay ( https://relay.md ) which supports directory-level (not just vault-level) sync.

relay looks kind of like what I was hoping for, I think...

except it's ANOTHER charge then. I have more than 2 devices...

I'm confused as well, does this wind up hijacking / using its own syncing? It's not just a "skin" on top of Obsidian itself, to get the benefits of it you have to use their "sync client" ?

This feels like it's something that should be part of the core product or at least Obsidian's own Sync product

Re: Obsidian Sync now has a headless client

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"obsidian shows them as markdown" = try editor settings ("Live Preview") in terms of embedded vaults, I agree there should be better native support -- but I was also delighted to discover Relay ( https://relay.md ) which supports directory-level (not just vault-level) sync.

relay looks kind of like what I was hoping for, I think... except it's ANOTHER charge then. I have more than 2 devices... I'm confused as well, does this wind up hijacking / using its own syncing? It's not just a "skin" on top of Obsidian itself, to get the benefits of it you have to use their "sync client" ? This feels like it's something that should be part of the core product or at least Obsidian's own Sync produc…

Hey, developer behind Relay here.

Yes, our sync engine is home-grown. We use CRDTs to provide real-time google-docs-like collaboration which is not something Obsidian supports (yet... i think they are working on it).

Note that you can self-host a Relay server and join it to our network. This gives you complete control over your data and unmetered storage. We do still charge for seats if you have more than 3 collaborators.

Re: Obsidian Sync now has a headless client

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only in 2nd-brain mythology, which holds that you'll discover connections between your notes that you didn't realize was there. I think it started as eye candy to confuse prospective users considering Roam Notes. They later did something similar with their "Canvas" feature. So, these are features you get with their lack of coherent vision, rather than basic usability and a safe plugin ecosystem, neither of which Obsi…

Let me provide a counter argument: with the graph you can browse your notes visually in 2D, instead of just the usual list. You can just take notes as usual, easily add #tags and [[links]] in them, and then when you go to graph view you can see connections between those links and you can color code or filter tags. You get a global graph view of all your vault, and local view of any note. Links and tags are literally…

Sorry, the lack of vision I referred to related to Obsidian's leadership -- unserious D&D kids largely unconcerned with usability, performing security theatrics with sync e2ee while their users data is regularly at risk of mass exfiltration via their insanely dangerous community plugin ecosystem.

The on-screen appearance of the feature you're referring to may be visual and coherent, I'm just pointing out that users frequently cite theoretical or anticipated benefits of this feature, not real ones.

Re: Obsidian Sync now has a headless client

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Wait… I’m not supposed to to just use Nextcloud and treat it as a local folder of markdown files? Damn… I’m doing it all wrong!!

How does your cloud resolve simultaneous edit conflicts?

You know… I can’t think of the last time I was 2 places at once…
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