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Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by Roelven »

shriphani wrote: post #180
evolve2k wrote: post #106

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I was personally deeply shocked recently, when I sat with my children as they were watching the animated Iron Man series at their grandpas house. This was on Sunday morning TV. The episode was about other 'bad' characters stealing Iron Mans suit. I was alarmed when the dialog turned explicitly to talk of Patents and how evil it was that they were infringing Iron Mans designs. As I continued to watch it dawned on me t…

Kids don't give a shit.

Well, they might not give a shit but a story does stick. Same goes for that whole Chronicles of Narnia sagia, which is criticized for containing too many biblical references.

I don't think lightly of these things, as in fact- reading is a way of brainwashing too.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by rszrama »

robbiet480 wrote: post #7

This means that Disney now controls Marvel, Pixar, LucasArts, ABC, ESPN, A+E, Disney Channel plus all their own original content and of course the parks and merchandising rights for everything stated above. Those businesses most likely control the top 10 film franchises of the last few years. This is a pretty insane acquisition.

Harry Potter? Twilight? Final Destination? (Oh, wait.)

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by smokeyj »

tptacek wrote: post #193
a3_nm wrote: post #191

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> Millions of kids saw that episode and went on to pirate movies and music anyways, because kids don't really derive their ethics from cartoon series The point of such propaganda would not be to ensure that people don't pirate, but to plant the idea that doing so is morally bad, so that lobbying efforts in favor of IP protection laws seem morally legitimate.

Then the evil forces of Disney are in league with PBS to deliver that message.

"It's cool guys, Arthur supports IP too."

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by FireBeyond »

edgesrazor wrote: post #86
bonzoesc wrote: post #35

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Steve Jobs wasn't ever really a "creative force" at Disney.

Probably the wrong choice of words. He did help bring in a lot of creative people, however. I'm just wondering if this will follow the same line of thinking - there's quite a lot of talented people who work for the Lucas properties.

Do you think so? To my mind, the set of people in that industry, as creatives, who would think "Hmm, I dunno. I'm not really sold / excited about the idea of working for Disney / Pixar / Lucasfilm... Oh, Steve Jobs is involved? That changes ... everything." (sorry, couldn't resist).

These companies appear, at least to me, as the pinnacle of "career as a creative artist in film" employers - I doubt the personality of a board member / part-owner, even one with as much going for him as Jobs did, was ever the deciding factor in their ability to lure talent.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by cmccabe »

tptacek wrote: post #182
shriphani wrote: post #180

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Kids don't give a shit.

Well, I did learn not to hide in discarded refrigerators from Punky Brewster.

Well, I did learn not to hide in discarded refrigerators from Punky Brewster.

That's funny; another of Mr. Lucas' fine films taught me that you can survive a direct nuclear explosion by hiding in a discarded refrigerator.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by tptacek »

swlevy wrote: post #219
tptacek wrote: post #179

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No. The Disney Princess "narrative" simply fits into preexisting gender norms. There was no "Disney Princess" culture in the 1950s. If you created a chart showing the trendlines of female mobilization into the workforce (and particularly the "professions") and the revenue extracted from Disney Princess offerings, you'd have a concrete reason to question the assumption you're making here.

FYI Disney's princess culture arguably dates all the way back to 1937, with Snow White.

Anticipating this very objection, I evoked the graph of Disney's revenue from Princess properties to further carry the point.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by illuminate »

philwelch wrote: post #61
afterburner wrote: post #55

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Sarcasm? I can think of one... EDIT: News Corp was what I was thinking.

Really? I'm not being sarcastic at all. Please share. EDIT: Despite Fox News, the Fox network broadcasts left-leaning shows like The Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad, which regularly mock Fox News. 20th Century Fox distributes a lot of films without any discernable agenda[1], even backing films like Avatar, or the Wall Street sequel. I'm convinced that News Corporation is entirely mercenary in its agenda and on…

"I'm convinced that News Corporation is entirely mercenary in its agenda and only started Fox News because right-wing cable news was a wide open opportunity in the late 1990's."

This might be more plausible if their News wing didn't represent the interests of its Founder.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by cmccabe »

tptacek wrote: post #227
lutze wrote: post #226

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Really? I learned the exact opposite from Indiana Jones!

Wait, what? Which Indiana Jones?

The one that most of us would prefer to forget. www.imdb.com/title/tt0367882/

For a while, it seemed like "nuking the fridge" was going to replace "jumping the shark" as a metaphor for creative failure.

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