This is the happy ending.
I'm worried about who will rush in to fill the vacuum.
It was Altman. Papers have been signed.
President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems
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Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems
#222Is it weird that out a failed negotiation, there is a threat against a private entity publicly? Isn't it supposed to be freedom of something? Does this trigger any laws or something? Just for curiosity sake
> Isn't it supposed to be freedom of something? Oh, you fell for the ads
To be fair. This level of weirdness is not seen since the 60s/70s
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
The disappointing this is someone _will_ do it, you know it’s going to happen.
Someone? You say it like it's unknown that OpenAI got the contract
I meant in the general sense - you could have all the major players take a moral stance and say “no” but someone would say yes eventually.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please note that mass surveillance of Europeans is fine from Anthropic's statement.
Yeah it's a shitty statement "we're totally fine accidently targeting foreigners but come on, not 'mericans" because it's well known that once you have the capability it will be aimed at everyone anyway.
Folks; there isn't a geopolity agnostic equivalent of incorporation. There is no Anthropic without that grant of incorporation. Even if they wanted to take the most principled stance, they can only push so far, and to have a system that is incompatible with operating a mass surveillance network, it has to be capable of monitoring itself to recognize whether it has been configured in such a way as it's activity is aligned to the activity of mass surveillance. You'd have to build the mass surveillance oracle, which is in and of itself, a mass surveillance machine.
Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take notes other AI companies. This is a totally fine line to draw and it's not even that high bar. Dont allow systems to be built with your AI that automate mass surveillance or automate kill decisions.
With the price of tokens I think mass surveillance with AI is not a realistic use case. There already is a mass surveillance. Presumably most electronic communication is monitored. I guess LLMs can likely do a somewhat better job but probably not worth the cost for the marginal benefit over existing technologies? Similarly for "Terminators" or other AI killing machines... Isn't it cheaper to use a human? We have auto…
> With the price of tokens I think mass surveillance with AI is not a realistic use case.
Congratulations, today you're one of the lucky 10,000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentient_(intelligence_analysi...
Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Isn't it supposed to be freedom of something? Oh, you fell for the ads
To be fair. This level of weirdness is not seen since the 60s/70s
Its been there but its just been less public. The CEO of Qwest was ousted/and sent to prison because he refused to allow the government to tap all of their phone systems for NSA mass surveillance. This was like 25 years ago.
Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
At this point I'm starting to wonder if the US military has only served to make my life worse, as an American. During my lifetime.
The rest of the world: First time?
No I have known that for a long time, I mean in regards to my material well being inside the country. These wars do not serve to make anyone's lives better other than the elite.