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Setting up phones is a nightmare

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Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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I replace Google Messages with a FOSS version precisely because it doesn't bug me about RCS.

Which one if I may ask? I'm looking for one to get out of RCS reminders and also to avoid receiving emergency messages which come through even if I turn them off in Google messages. The local authorities overuse it, I get several per month now. I think it's because they got blamed for not warning everyone with the Valencia floods last year but it's really ridiculous now. Now they blow up everyone's phone just when th…

I like org.fossify.messages from F-Droid, but there are other good SMS apps over there.

Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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Yes but that's because the server has access to all your messages, they are not end to end encrypted. It makes things a lot easier yes but you do give up a lot of privacy too.

The server, and plausibly at least one secret service. Telegram datacenters are located in Florida, Amsterdam and Singapure.. guess local jurisdiction applies.

I am 100% convinced that whatsapp has backdoors and so I might as well just use the convenient one.

Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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Regarding users creating new accounts on phone setup: Recently I encountered a user that had created a new Google account when switching to a new device... on their last 5 devices. So when they switched to the latest one and called me to set up the phone, I had to wrangle the contacts, photos, cloud storage and whatnot from all of those accounts. Another pain point for me (in the EU/Balkans) is the transfer of Whatsa…

the WhatsApp chat transfer feature has worked for me many times https://faq.whatsapp.com/209942271778103/

for Viber I've only tried it via the backup on old phone and then restore that backup on the new phone

Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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Getting downvoted for speaking the truth. HN loves to twist its nose every time someone praises a closed-source solution but falls head over heels for anyone claiming to work for a FAANG. Hypocrisy thy name is HN.

I got downvoted one single time. Ow owie ouch my fake internet points. It was probably for saying everyone else doesn't deserve the piece of the pie. That's incredibly subjective on my part.

Ah, well, with that attitude it was well deserved then. Don’t mind me.

Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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I've been happy enough with my Ubuntu phone. Music works, I can send SMS messages and use the phone, timers and alarms work, and it takes pictures well enough. There's even a LibreWolf clone so I can see when my bus/train arrives.

Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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that isn't all that different from getting a Pixel. Paradox is, that with Pixel device you can get most freedom and security togather. Installation of GrapheneOS is easiest custom ROM installation that could possibly be.

I tried it, Graphene isn't really a good alternative because the built in apps are so bad that you end up needing to install the Pixel/Google versions anyway. If I have to install Google Messages for RCS, Google Calendar, Google Contacts, Pixel Camera (which forces you to use Google Photos for basic functionality), … where is the benefit? If I have to turn Graphene into a Pixel to make it usable, and I did, there’s n…

Benefit is in sandboxing gapps. Less data to collect and more battery to save.

Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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I have found websites for accessing my banking to be pretty great. Do we really need banking apps?

In my country, we do. For starters, we use apps for authentication and notifications. We can debate whether web push is viable, but most banking apps simply do not rely on it. As for older people, I would rather they use an app than a website because it is far too easy to fall victim to phishing attacks, no matter how much we educate them.

OK continuing to play Devil's advocate: In my country my mom fell to a sophisticated spear phishing attack and whilst on the phone with the scammer and he leveraged her app's login to make it easier and more convenient to attempt to send her money via Zelle.

I wonder if there's really evidence to support that the app's protect you from phishing attacks.

I personally think notifications suck and are spam and not needed, and that we could make something new and better we don't have that today though. What do you use the bank authentication for in your country if you don't mind my asking?

Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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I have found websites for accessing my banking to be pretty great. Do we really need banking apps?

This doesn't answer the question though. If someone says "how do I have safe sex" you don't suggest abstinence.

his question was "Dont you have any problems with banking apps?"

and I answered indirectly that I don't use them.

Maybe you just are fixating on only particular answers being acceptable.

Re: Setting up phones is a nightmare

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I got downvoted one single time. Ow owie ouch my fake internet points. It was probably for saying everyone else doesn't deserve the piece of the pie. That's incredibly subjective on my part.

Ah, well, with that attitude it was well deserved then. Don’t mind me.

How ironic...
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