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Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Who actually wants this? Kids obsesses with TikTok don't care about federated/open source bits. People who do are not on TikTok or interested in this type of brainrot in the first place. What am I missing?

Maybe it could be what prescribed Methadone is to Heroin addicts.

Heroin is illegal, so the first step to make this analogy work is to criminalize TikTok.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Who actually wants this? Kids obsesses with TikTok don't care about federated/open source bits. People who do are not on TikTok or interested in this type of brainrot in the first place. What am I missing?

Yeah I can make a dropbox clone in a one-liner bash command too Outright dismissal like this should be judged as harshly as the comment itself.

The parent comment explained why they dismissed this in clear language. Yours is a random weird comparison to Dropbox (how is it related to this post? Which side is Dropbox, TikTok or Loops?)

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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This project would love some additional support. If you're a developer who is interested in building this... please get in touch with them, the team is VERY small so you can do some good by just supporting them.

No disrespect to the project, but it is a bit hard to find motivation to contribute to something that will most likely end up being used by like 100 people who'll all just post videos about how they're better than Tiktok users

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it could be what prescribed Methadone is to Heroin addicts.

Watching all these open source, federated versions of social media platforms is like if you found out your favourite drug was actually manufactured by some really bad people and made people around the world suffer. So you make an open source version of the drug. Similar formula, just this time the people can own it. Sure you cut out the bad people, but is the situation improved now?

There are projects where long term addicts are given pure medical heroin (Diamorphin) in a controlled environment, and they do considerably better than their control group who does not receive their drugs like that.

E.g. https://patrida.de/

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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The HN cycle for federated alternatives is now complete: email → chat → microblogging → short video. We're speedrunning the "open-source version of things we claim to hate" timeline. Can't wait for the federated, self-hosted casino.

It's not "things we hate". It's "things we didn't think of capitalizing on".

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it could be what prescribed Methadone is to Heroin addicts.

Heroin is illegal, so the first step to make this analogy work is to criminalize TikTok.

Long overdue in fact. But then perhaps heroin wouldn’t be illegal if it was big pharma was producing it in large quantities. It just got barred early enough. Besides why we always forget how addictive and damaging is the well available alcohol?

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The site is buggy, when you enable 2FA, you are given the qr code option only, no option for manual entry. When you sign up and the username is taken, you next button goes into infinite loop even after changing the username, you cannot click next, and clicking back doesn’t fix it.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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The reality is that the addictive algorithm of commercial social media platforms is the product . These alternative platforms are like nicotine free cigarettes. They might garner small communities, which is totally cool and valid, but they will never slay the giants.

happiness is addictive. Solution is to replace with something completely different. Why not free hacking challenges / courses for teenagers?

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Birth rates took a dip with broadband, smartphones, and TikTok. Dopamine and attention sinks are pulling society in directions counter to evolutionary programming. Our runtime algorithms optimize for different things. No value judgment, but it's interesting. I haven't had kids (yet?), and I feel the internet (and the career that revolves around it) is the biggest reason why.

Citation needed

I actually looked at several graphs before posting. Wasn't easy to share crude data so I didn't link it.

Now that I'm googling for more deliberate correlations, I see other people are talking about this:

https://roytriggs.medium.com/internet-use-and-birth-rates-an...

https://fortune.com/well/2025/03/28/phones-declining-birth-r...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/29/opinion/dating-marriage-c...

"The phone killed babies" tracks with my intuition about this. Data correlates.

Finances aren't keeping me from having kids. The internet is. Smartphones are. Weird as that sounds. I can unpack more and expand this into a conversation.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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I've been casually daydreaming about possible paths an "AI augmented" newsfeed experience could take.

I'm imagining an initial group of agents scraping the web for events (twitter/x, science/eng/business publications) that could potentially translate to stories that their end users (humans) might be interested in.

those stories get picked up by another set of bots (equivalent to reddit posters) and get published on an agent-only social network where a diverse set of agents with different "backgrounds"/personalities comment and discuss on the story.

inputs from this post (article + comments) are picked up by an 'editor' agent and go into a final summarized article designed for human eyes or humans personal agent or newsfeed agent.

humans being the end users browse their (ai enhanced) newsfeed which has its own private, continuously evolving algorithms based on knowledge of 1) what and 2) how its human likes to consume/think.

information is "backpropagated" to inform/reinforce the initial scraper group of bots on what to look out for.

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