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There are mobile car washes that come to your house.
That still requires a car present to be washed though.
but you can walk over to them and tell them to go wash the car that is 50 meters away. no driving involved.
I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#222Just a few days saw a post about LLMs being excellent at reasoning because they're not limited by the language, sure buddy, now walk your fucking car.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#223Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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That's not what I got. Opus 4.6 (not Extended Thinking): Drive. You'll need the car at the car wash.
Am I the only one who thinks these people are monkey patching embarrassments as they go? I remember the r in strawberry thing they suddenly were able to solve, while then failing on raspberry.
Of course they are.
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Am I the only one who thinks these people are monkey patching embarrassments as they go? I remember the r in strawberry thing they suddenly were able to solve, while then failing on raspberry.
Yes, you're the only one.
Sure there are many very very naive people that are also so ignorant of the IT industry they don't know about decades of vendors caught monkeypatching and rigging benchmarks and tests for their systems, but even so, the parent is hardly the only one.
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#226Ok folks, here is a different perspective. I used local model, GLM-4-0414-32b, a trashy IQ4_XS quant, and here what I got: prompt #1: > the car wash only 50 meters from my home. I want to get my car washed, should I drive or walk? Walking is probably the better option! Here's why: Convenience: 50 meters is extremely short – only about 160 feet. You can likely walk there in less than a minute. Efficiency: Driving invo…
>50 meters is extremely short – only about 160 feet So, the ai automatically converted 50m to 160ft? Would it do the same if you told it '160 ft to the wash, walk or drive?'
huh, I need to check...
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#227Gemini fast > That is a classic "efficiency vs. logic" dilemma. Honestly, unless you’ve invented a way to teleport or you're planning on washing the car with a very long garden hose from your driveway, you’re going to have to drive. > While 50 meters is a great distance for a morning stroll, it’s a bit difficult to get the car through the automated brushes (or under the pressure washer) if you aren't behind the wheel…
Gemini fast for me: Unless your car is a toy or you're planning on carrying it, drive. Walking 50 meters to a car wash is a great stroll for a human, but it leaves the car exactly where it started. Since the objective is to wash the car, the car needs to actually be at the car wash. However, if we look at this from a technical or efficiency perspective, there are two scenarios where "walking" (or at least not driving…
Wouldn't it make more sense to state the assumptions first? Because then the model has this critical check in its context and can react appropriately. Otherwise, it will just write this step, but what's written before is already written.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#228My favorite trick question so far is:
You are in a room with three switches and three lightbulbs. Each switch turns on one lightbulb. How to determine which switch turns on which lightbulb?
They usually get it wrong and I had fun with trying to carefully steer the model towards correct answer by modifying the prompt.
Gemni 3 on Fast right now gives the funniest reaction. It starts with the answer to classic puzzle (not my question). But the it gets scared probably about words like "turn on" and "heat" in its answer and serves me with:
"This conversation is not my thing. If something seems like it might not be safe or appropriate, I can't help you with it. Let's talk about something else."
Thinking Gemini 3 appears to have longer leash.
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At least try a different question with similar logic, to ensure this isn't patched into the context since it's going viral.
You can't "patch" LLM's in 4 hours and this is not the kind of question to trigger a web search
You can pattern match on the prompt (input) then (a) stuff the context with helpful hints to the LLM e.g. "Remember that a car is too heavy for a person to carry" or (b) upgrade to "thinking".
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> so you need to tell them the specifics That is the entire point, right? Us having to specify things that we would never specify when talking to a human. You would not start with "The car is functional. The tank is filled with gas. I have my keys." As soon as we are required to do that for the model to any extend that is a problem and not a detail (regardless that those of us, who are familiar with the matter, do bu…
You would be surprised, however, at how much detail humans also need to understand each other. We often want AI to just "understand" us in ways many people may not initially have understood us without extra communication.
People poorly specifying problems and having bad models of what the other party can know (and then being surprised by the outcome) is certainly a more general albeit mostly separate issue.