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Just let the agents spin. But it's not that easy, is it.
Someone that will tackle this will be competing against B dollar companies and extravagant level of features and integration. It's not as simple as a chatroom with people in it.
Maybe I'm living in a parallel reality, but there are plenty of Slack alternatives and plenty of companies using Slack clones such as Mattermost and Zulip, among others. And yes, they work just fine.
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> I don't think we should cheer on one of the largest companies in the world to build a product to get them even more enterprise stranglehold. Depends of how you see it. At the moment, if you want a good productivity suit of tools, you have Microsoft or Microsoft because Google is hampered by their lackluster chat client. People would like some competition.
On that basis, Microsoft are also hampered by a lackluster chat client - Teams is atrocious. Slack is pretty much the only game in town that isn't bad (and even that needs native clients, because the UI is poor and not system-integrated).
Slack is very much developers software in comparison.
I use Slack every day, and I love it. Integrations are simple and reliable, giving us useful information about critical things. Why it uses 400mb I have no idea.
My personal experience with using Slack as just a in-company chat app has been fine. I enjoy using Slack more than Teams or Discord. All their integrations kinda suck though, and its not uncommon for integrations to randomly break with no discernible changes elsewhere.
Surely we can raise the bar for team chat out of hell....
I have never understood slack. It’s basically a very expensive solution for a generation who are scared of command terminals and too prideful, or clearly narcissistic, to admit fear. Slack is based on IRC. IRC is free and there are multiple browser clients for it. Knowing that completely takes the air out of a commercial vanity tool.
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"plenty of corporations much larger than Google"? Google is the third largest company by market cap in the world. I suppose by "much larger" you mean number of employees? Walmart maybe? I doubt there's many out there using slack
By market cap? Is the money using slack? Company size when you're talking about tools for humans makes no sense in terms of market cap. Plenty of companies with many more employees than Google use slack.
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Google Chat is definitely a product that could use more love, but it is situated in a specific internal landscape, and grows out of it. Slack is built for a very different context, and I doubt Google would build something like that. Google simply doesn't see the world the way someone who likes Slack would (and I also doubt a large co like Google could operate out of Slack).
> and I also doubt a large co like Google could operate out of Slack Plenty of corporations much larger than Google operate out of Slack.
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> Why it uses 400mb I have no idea. Yes, this is an important detail as well. Make a Slack clone, but have it perform way better than the original (less RAM, CPU usage), with a smaller storage footprint. Also deliver on features faster than the original. And have those features be more tailored to what the users both want and need - and things they didn’t even know they needed as well. This is, after all, what’s bein…
Is Slack CPU and memory usage actually a problem? Sure, developers complain about it but they almost always have powerful PCs
If it can’t produce an executable that minimizes RAM and storage for something like Slack, are we supposed to believe it can for something more traditionally power-hungry (browsers), or storage hungry (Call of Duty, iPhone apps)?
Shouldn’t AI be on the forefront for reducing resource usage in general (not just digital resources), or is just a giant exercise in induced demand / Braess’ paradox?