Seems like a very cool technique, but also very oversold. He's seeing a 5% improvement on a find and replace benchmark of his own devising and saying stuff like this in the blog post: > Here is why that is backwards. I just showed that a different edit format improves their own models by 5 to 14 points while cutting output tokens by ~20%. That’s not a threat. It’s free R&D. He makes it sounds like he got a 5-14% boos…
> “replace line 2:f1, replace range 1:a3 through 3:0e, insert after 3:0e.” Not sure what they're calculating, but this seems to me like it could be many times more efficient than 20%.
Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
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Re: Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
#222I really enjoyed this article. I think the author is precisely right and I've been saying this for a long time. There's a ton of extremely interesting low hanging fruit that can vastly improve the effectiveness of even currently existing models hiding in how we design our agent harnesses; enough to — at least until we hit diminishing returns — make as much or more of a difference than training new models! I think one…
Re: Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
#223Re: Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
#224I really enjoyed this article. I think the author is precisely right and I've been saying this for a long time. There's a ton of extremely interesting low hanging fruit that can vastly improve the effectiveness of even currently existing models hiding in how we design our agent harnesses; enough to — at least until we hit diminishing returns — make as much or more of a difference than training new models! I think one…
Ive been working on Peen, a CLI that lets local Ollama models call tools effectively. It’s quite amateur, but I’ve been surprised how spending a few hours on prompting, and code to handle responses, can improve the outputs of small local models. https://github.com/codazoda/peen
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#225Re: Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
#226I really enjoyed this article. I think the author is precisely right and I've been saying this for a long time. There's a ton of extremely interesting low hanging fruit that can vastly improve the effectiveness of even currently existing models hiding in how we design our agent harnesses; enough to — at least until we hit diminishing returns — make as much or more of a difference than training new models! I think one…
Ive been working on Peen, a CLI that lets local Ollama models call tools effectively. It’s quite amateur, but I’ve been surprised how spending a few hours on prompting, and code to handle responses, can improve the outputs of small local models. https://github.com/codazoda/peen
Re: Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Em dashes are used often by LLMs, because humans use them often. On mac keyboards its easily typed. I know this is oversimplifying the situation, but I don't see the usefulness of the constant witch-hunting for allegedly LLM-generated text. For text we are long beyond the point, where we can differenciate between human generated and machine generated. We're even at the point, where it gets somewhat hard to identify m…
Yeah, I agree with you. I'm so tired of people complaining about AI-generated text without focusing on the content. Just don't read it if you don't like it. It's another level of when people complain how a website is not readable for them or some CSS rendering is wrong or whatever. How does it add to the discussion?
The amount of work the author puts in is correlated with the value of the piece (insight/novelty/etc). AI-written text is a signal that there’s less less effort and therefore less value there.
It’s not a perfect correlation and there are lots of exceptions like foreign language speakers, but it is a signal.
Re: Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
At this point subsidizing Chinese open-weights vendors by paying for them is just the right thing to do. Maybe they too might go closed-weights when they become SotA, but they're now pretty close and haven't done it.
I am wondering what kinds of harness are best for GLM, Deepseek, Qwen, Kimi.
Re: Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
#229I really enjoyed this article. I think the author is precisely right and I've been saying this for a long time. There's a ton of extremely interesting low hanging fruit that can vastly improve the effectiveness of even currently existing models hiding in how we design our agent harnesses; enough to — at least until we hit diminishing returns — make as much or more of a difference than training new models! I think one…
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Re: Improving 15 LLMs at Coding in One Afternoon. Only the Harness Changed
#230I really enjoyed this article. I think the author is precisely right and I've been saying this for a long time. There's a ton of extremely interesting low hanging fruit that can vastly improve the effectiveness of even currently existing models hiding in how we design our agent harnesses; enough to — at least until we hit diminishing returns — make as much or more of a difference than training new models! I think one…
My Weird Hill is that we should be building things with GPT-4. I can say unironically that we haven't even tapped the full potential of GPT-4. The original one, from 2023. With no reasoning, no RL, no tool calling, no structured outputs, etc. (No MCP, ye gods!) Yes, it's possible to build coding agents with it! I say this because I did! Forcing yourself to make things work with older models forces you to keep things…
I would run it via calling AWS Bedrock API through AWS-CLI. Self iterating and simple. All execution history directly embedded within.
Soon after, I wrote a help switch/command to each script. Such that they act as like MCP. To this day, they outperform any prompts one can make.