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Re: Nobody knows how the whole system works

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Nobody knows how to manufacture a pencil. Thousands (millions?) of people and companies are involved world wide and nobody knows how to do every step of the process, from mining and foresting to transport, logistics, accounting etc.

That's the beauty of specialization.

The same goes for software.

Re: Nobody knows how the whole system works

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why does the author imply not knowing everything is a bad thing? If you have clear protocol and interfaces, not knowing everything enables you to make bigger innovations. If everything is a complex mess, then no.

Not knowing everything never "enables" you to do anything. Knowing how something works is always better than not knowing, assuming you want to use it or make changes to it.

knowing how it works, meaning what it does, doesn't always imply knowing its inner details. Its the basis of abstraction.

Re: Nobody knows how the whole system works

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Excellent read please tell me more about your novel approaches to deal with daily life by breaking the law with theft and property damage.

Sorry, you're thoroughly confused. It is not theft to steal from a thief. It's called "justice." I realize this is a radical concept for your society, which at this moment is thoroughly unjust. Familiarize yourself with this concept now, as it will come up later on the test. No wonder you keep getting robbed and fucked over all the time. You think it's somehow morally wrong to strike back! It's like you were born and…

I admit, I went a bit through your post history, cause you're interesting, if unhinged.

First off, you make me think of an awakened and fully actualized version of Luke Smith.

So you're like, a hardcore American Libertarian? The no phone thing is incredibly based, and personally I think smashing a shopping cart into some asshole's truck is both hilarious and just. I do similar when I cone illegally parked cars.

So why libertarian and not anarchist? You seem to appreciate direct action. You seem to have opposition to all forms of oppression be they coming from the government or a bank or a corporation, you're willing to make what some would consider huge personal sacrifice to stand for your values. Is it an inherent distaste of leftist thought? If you are libertarian, that word was born in the most far left circles possible. It still is a synonym for "anarchist" in most places in the world.

I'm not trying to get your goat here. I like talking to people with completely different ideologies than me. Keeps me on my toes, prevents fossilization.

Re: Nobody knows how the whole system works

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You sit on the arbitrating layer. It sounds like you have some programming experience as you miss looking at the code. I did check a lot of code and got tired of how perfect it were, generated by AI. Latest Claude is insane, does not even make errors. You still have to guide it and it will occasionally go astray and make rookie mistakes. If you extrapolate to 6 months down the road, one Claude API = a team of 10 prog…

> Latest Claude is insane, does not even make errors. You still have to guide it and it will occasionally go astray and make rookie mistakes. I swear, do you people even hear yourselves?

yeah this might have been contradictory... thanks for pointing it out. I will watch mirror reflections in the future.

Re: Nobody knows how the whole system works

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Not knowing everything never "enables" you to do anything. Knowing how something works is always better than not knowing, assuming you want to use it or make changes to it.

knowing how it works, meaning what it does, doesn't always imply knowing its inner details. Its the basis of abstraction.

Abstraction isn't ignorance, it's the very conscious choice not to depend on implementation details. Being ignorant to those details doesn't give you any superpowers, abstraction itself does. It doesn't work because you don't know everything, it works despite that. Not knowing everything is still a bad thing, we just find ways to make it less bad.

Re: Nobody knows how the whole system works

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Nearly every time I attempt to tell people how much understanding fundamentals matters, it’s dismissed as being unnecessary knowledge. I can’t make anyone want to know how things work, and it’s getting tiring being continuously told “no” when I ask.

My daughter who is studying CS (unexpectedly) actually listens most of the time. Which is surprising. But then she tells me her classmates used AI to cheat on assignments so much that the prof had to change the weighting of the assignments to be 0. I just don't get paying to "learn", and then using AI avoid learning.

Because to a 20 year old who is worried about getting a job, the value of getting all A’s and learning less is higher than getting all B’s and learning more.
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