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The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

actionfromafar wrote: post #173
moralestapia wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that ... given one specific topic, few people understand it while the vast majority is completely oblivious to its workings. So they then hear someone who speaks like that, with a fast cadence and Andrew Tate's "Confidence" TM, and are inclined to think "yeah, the guy looks like he knows what he's talking about". But for people who have minimal knowledge about the thing, it's evident that said person is just…

It's on a different axis to stupid. These people play another kind of game, like scammers, they filter away people who can see through their bullshit. To them, actually learning a "normal" topic is a distraction. Their game is finding and exploiting weaknesses.

It's literally a marketing funnel for corruption. Having Smart People™ at your "parties" adds a layer of legitimacy and social proof you wouldn't get if you were Bubba from Nowhere Town.

Some people will be attracted by the menu, some people won't realise what's happening until they see the video they're starring in.

Either way, you own them.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by 0dayz »

stein1946 wrote: post #138

While I understand that once one attains those short of connections, certain intelligence agencies will reach out offering lucrative opportunities for your co-operation. Disgusting nature aside, I can't help but be amazed as to how someone can be so well connected. What sort of skills did Epstein have that managed to have so many people on speed dial? How do you get in a position to correspond with presidents, royals…

If one stops seeing Epstein as only a blackmailer and instead see him as both a blackmailer and a fixer I think things falls into place.

There are after all multiple people being "given" girlfriends or contacts for social networking, shown in the Epstein files.

Most obvious example is of course Donald Trump with Melania.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by vee-kay »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #213
vee-kay wrote: post #107

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You'd be surprised how accurate your take is on reputation management teams operating on social media. One time I joked about blocking a domain which would have embarrassed a notorious colour revolution organisation and the next day the domain was snatched up by the named gang. And that particular Reddit account got banned.

Reddit and Twitter are cesspools of noise and misinformation since years.

Even whole subreddits are taken over by shady admins, and totally weaponised. e.g., r/India is filled with anti-India hate posts and malicious misinformation, because that subreddit is controlled by Pakistani admins.

I was actually glad when my Reddit user account got banned for speaking some truths about history of my nation, LOL.

Lot less stress on HN, it is more peaceful, simple, and informative, I like it.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by fatherwavelet »

colechristensen wrote: post #94
andrewflnr wrote: post #42

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I've found that problem solving intelligence and language skills are not that strongly correlated. He clearly had some kind of skill to keep his operation running, even before you consider the more cynical explanations in the other replies.

He was an asset being managed by intelligence service officers, this is the only explanation. A failing math teacher at a New York prep school leading to a job at Bear Stearns and then as a wealth manager for billionaires... let's say it doesn't add up unless there were other reasons than his own ambitions and organization skills. Mossad or the Russians engineered his life.

It only doesn't add up if you are viewing him like Warren Buffet in terms of finance. Obviously, his audited track record of returns is nowhere to be found.

It very much all adds up if you view Epstein as a financial genius in terms of financial crimes.

This idea he was some intelligence created stooge is just absurd. I would suspect he was an intelligence asset exactly because of his ability to launder money and commit financial crimes. His wealth came from taking a cut. The size of his wealth was a reflection of the amount of financial crimes committed. That level of financial crime is how you get a sweetheart deal to keep those crimes in the shadows.

Also the kind of thing that would get you suicided. This podcast/social media narrative that he was a created intelligence asset to blackmail the rich and powerful is probably misdirection to not focus on the actual financial crimes. The cover up has been executed to perfection considering the misdirection narratives have taken on a life of their own and we know basically nothing about the financial crimes he commited.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by vee-kay »

cubefox wrote: post #197
moralestapia wrote: post #5

Excerpt from one of the related emails (written by JE): "great proposal„ however, it needs to be more around deception alice -bob. communication. virus hacking, battle between defense and infiltration.. computation is already looked at in various fields. camoflauge , mimickry, signal processing, and its non random nature, misinformation. ( the anti- truth - but right answer for the moment ).. computation does not inv…

Sounds like he was confused but genuinely interested in cryptology, which contradicts the cynical narrative about him only donating for social reasons.

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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by rayiner »

technothrasher wrote: post #209
pintxo wrote: post #165

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> But at the same time, the budget for justice system needs to increase. It should be most probably the strongest branch of the government. Delayed justice is one of the most common ways of injustice. The judical branch should very much NOT be a part of the government itself, but a fully separate branch. > Corruption within private companies is irrelevant, as the main ones to suffer from it are usually shareholders.…

> The judical branch should very much NOT be a part of the government itself, but a fully separate branch. If you don't give that entirely separate branch any executive power, it cannot enforce its rulings. If you do give it separate executive power, there is nothing to rein it in when it becomes corrupt.

Correct. If you conceive of the “rule of law” as being the operating system kernel on top of which the rest of society runs, then there are no checks on the law enforcers and interpreters.

This is not a theoretical problem. Prosecuting politicians is a preferred approach in dysfunctional democracies, like Pakistan: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly77v0n8e9o

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by bigDinosaur »

colechristensen wrote: post #94
andrewflnr wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found that problem solving intelligence and language skills are not that strongly correlated. He clearly had some kind of skill to keep his operation running, even before you consider the more cynical explanations in the other replies.

He was an asset being managed by intelligence service officers, this is the only explanation. A failing math teacher at a New York prep school leading to a job at Bear Stearns and then as a wealth manager for billionaires... let's say it doesn't add up unless there were other reasons than his own ambitions and organization skills. Mossad or the Russians engineered his life.

There's no actual good evidence for being a Mossad operative and the agenda of trying desperately to link him to Mossad so strongly is such a transparent agenda it's almost funny.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by tdeck »

direwolf20 wrote: post #192

The most surprising name in the Epstein files is Rebecca Watson also known as Skepchick on YouTube. She has been a thorn in their side for years and years.

I've been enjoying her recent videos about this for sure e.g. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoO9FZXUgv4

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by mvc »

simgt wrote: post #187

> not yet a pitiful over-the-hill geezer in his 30s Hey. Fuck them. At least most of us are not greedy corrupt fucks. Or died in prison as a consequence of our own sins.

A cool thing to do by the way, when you have run over a hill like us. Is to run back over it the other way.
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