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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by verdverm » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:10 PM UTC

contravariant wrote: post #186

baalimago wrote: post #166

I'm a bit surprised that people need an LLM to automate things like this. Is the market really that large, to cause such a hype? I don't think I'm being "elitist" by having a calendar and a pen, am I..? The one tangible usecase is perhaps booking things. But, personally, I don't mind paying 5-10% extra by going to a local store and speaking to a real person. Or perhaps intentionally buying ecological. Or whatever. Wh…

Well websites like AirBnB tend to make it as difficult as humanly possible to automate stuff like this, so maybe? Although that likely only lasts until they learn how to block LLMs effectively.

We may get to a point where they have a hard time distinguishing. Perhaps it can be made in their interest to open the API for everyone (i.e. convince the bean counters)

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by pmart123 » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:10 PM UTC

baalimago wrote: post #166

I'm a bit surprised that people need an LLM to automate things like this. Is the market really that large, to cause such a hype? I don't think I'm being "elitist" by having a calendar and a pen, am I..? The one tangible usecase is perhaps booking things. But, personally, I don't mind paying 5-10% extra by going to a local store and speaking to a real person. Or perhaps intentionally buying ecological. Or whatever. Wh…

There's a lot of irony right now regarding the cost of these things too (although I know the cost curve will drop over time). I know developers that are burning $1,000/day on tokens for Claude Code or VC's using the $200/month ChatGPT pricing plan who are then talking about Vibe coding TurboTax away. TurboTax for most people is $50 to $100 a year. We are still a far way off even from a cost justification standpoint let alone a reliability standpoint of relying on a vibe coded solution for filing your taxes.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by verdverm » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:11 PM UTC

webdood90 wrote: post #217

superdisk wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just very poser behavior.

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if by boomers you mean a community with above average expectations for the quality of submissions and commentary, sure

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by IshKebab » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:13 PM UTC

bondarchuk wrote: post #44

IshKebab wrote: post #31

Can this thing deal with the insane way my children's school communicates? Actionable information (children wear red tomorrow) is mixed in with "this week we have been learning about bees" across five different communication channels . I'm not exaggerating. We have Tapestry, emails, a newsletter, parents WhatsApp, Arbour and Facebook. I guess the difficulty is getting the data into the AI.

That's six channels actually.

Oh yeah it used to be five but they added Facebook because - I quote - "we hope that we can create another line of communication for reminders and messages".

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by warkdarrior » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:13 PM UTC

taytus wrote: post #216

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #211

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You do understand that is who you’re competing with now right? My daughter is a excellent student in high school She and I spoke last night and she is increasingly pissed off that people who are in her classes, who don’t do the work, and don’t understand the material get all A’s because they’re using some form of GPT to do their assignments, and teachers cannot keep up I do not see a world in the future where you can…

>You do understand that is who you’re competing with now right? No. I'm competing with no one.

You may think you are not competing. The people whose money you may want (employers, investors, customers) definitely see you as one of many competitors for their funds.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by verdverm » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:16 PM UTC

GaryBluto wrote: post #138

layer8 wrote: post #66

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Unfortunately it has become quite common on HN already. It comes from people growing up on smartphone chats where the kids apparently don’t care to press Shift.

I've already written an extension that filters these comments intelligently. (E.g., quotes are ignored but if the rest of the body is all lowercase it is collapsed.)

have you shared it anywhere?

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by magneticnorth » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:17 PM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #198

cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

My assumption was that it's a way to convey it was written by a human because it would be hard to get an AI to write in all lowercase (which it actually isn't).

I was just this morning reading one of those navel-gazing moltbook posts where the agent describes their "soul.md", and one of its few instructions was all-lowercase (which it was doing).

That early sentence "i’ll be vulnerable here (screenshots or it didn't happen) and share exactly what i've actually set up:" reads pretty clawdbot to me.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by renewiltord » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:18 PM UTC

cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

You know how people used to wear the black turtleneck to channel Steve Jobs? This is how they channel Sam Altman (who also does this). It's just an affectation saying "I'm with Sam". There's not much more to it.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by verdverm » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:18 PM UTC

game_the0ry wrote: post #91

cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

Its a gen z trend. My nephews do the same. We are old.

We are not old, there is a reason the generation is said (in stats and polls) to be less professional than prior generations when entering the workforce

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by pfortuny » Wed, Feb 04, 2026, 5:19 PM UTC

eggy wrote: post #136

defgeneric wrote: post #97

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You mention the technical aspect (readability) and others have suggested the aesthetic, but you could also look at it as a form of rhetoric . I'm not sure it's really effective because it sort of grates on the ear for anyone over 35, but maybe there's a point in distinguishing itself from AI sloptext. Incidentally, millenials also used the "no caps" style but mainly for "marginalia" (at most paragraph-length notes, o…

nobody shouts in lowercase—it whispers its way into being, a small insurgency against The Proper Way To Speak ; ) -- inspired by e.e. cummings!

But then Clawd gets capitalized...