Live data from Hacker News

Film students who can no longer sit through films

theatlantic.com

221–230 of 248 posts

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#221
post #35

If you really care about something, screen addiction does not interfere. A friend of mine has a terrible Instagram addiction, yet has developed for himself a certain degree of cinephilia lately -- we've watched long movies together in theaters and not once has he been on his phone during the screenings. When one has faith that sustained attention might hold more value than that gained by interruption, they tend to pr…

how old is your friend? has he been raised with cocomelon from day 1?

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#222
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I also make liberal use of 2x speed and +5s during interminably long suspense sequences that are literally just someone walking through a dark environment while spooky music plays. Those are typically the movies where I just end up turning it off and reading a synopsis. Some movies just aren’t that good.

Here's the thing: the overall movie isn't good, but it might contain some really good elements. The point of skimming and controlling your media experience is to appreciate the good parts while discarding the bad. It's the equivalent of going to a restaurant and being served a nice steak with a side of shit. You can just eat the stake and ignore the shit. The dish would be better if they replaced the shit with someth…

At risk of stretching your analogy to the breaking point, I’m not eating a steak served next to shit.

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#223
post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone that wants their own private "film school", can invest 10 years or so and work through the "1001 Movies to See Before You Die" [1]. It's a book compiled by several film critics as I understand it. For each of the films there's a page or two explaining the significance of the film (according to the critic that chose it for the list). My wife and I have been at it for perhaps 6 years now. We probably have 3 year…

That's a good list, but it's quite a western list. It's missing some great films from Socialist era Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, etc. If you'd like to know some of my favourites, just let me know.

Please. And would you suggest any lists/forums which you found good?

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#224

Counterpoint from the article: > A handful of professors told me they hadn’t noticed any change. Some students have always found old movies to be slow, Lynn Spigel, a professor of screen cultures at Northwestern University, told me. “But the ones who are really dedicated to learning film always were into it, and they still are.” The article doesn't actually give any evidence attention spans are shortened. Many of the…

Once you know about "Save The Cat!" it becomes boring to watch a movie that follows the formula. I noticed even back in the 80s that too many movies ended in the "chase through the darkened warehouse". The movie will be doing fine, until somehow the hero and villain wind up in a dark, abandoned warehouse, ship, factory, whatever. Then they have a long, drawn out fight. Then the bad guy gets killed. Movie over? Nope.…

The same is true about superhero fights. They throw each other through a few buildings until the plot has to move on. The fights just don't matter.

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#225

Is it a loss of attention span, or is the 2-hour feature film simply an outdated format for the current generation? The information density of a slow 1970s drama is incredibly low compared to the multi-stream environment they grew up in. They aren't necessarily 'dumber'; their brains are just optimized for high-frequency information processing, whereas cinema is optimized for immersion.

>their brains are just optimized for high-frequency information processing Wow, is there any evidence of this?

No, it’s cope.

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#226
post #35

If you really care about something, screen addiction does not interfere. A friend of mine has a terrible Instagram addiction, yet has developed for himself a certain degree of cinephilia lately -- we've watched long movies together in theaters and not once has he been on his phone during the screenings. When one has faith that sustained attention might hold more value than that gained by interruption, they tend to pr…

Anyone that wants their own private "film school", can invest 10 years or so and work through the "1001 Movies to See Before You Die" [1]. It's a book compiled by several film critics as I understand it. For each of the films there's a page or two explaining the significance of the film (according to the critic that chose it for the list). My wife and I have been at it for perhaps 6 years now. We probably have 3 year…

I started on the BFI 250 greatest films this year. It's been an incredible experience so far. Lots of overlap with that list anyway.

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#228
post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone that wants their own private "film school", can invest 10 years or so and work through the "1001 Movies to See Before You Die" [1]. It's a book compiled by several film critics as I understand it. For each of the films there's a page or two explaining the significance of the film (according to the critic that chose it for the list). My wife and I have been at it for perhaps 6 years now. We probably have 3 year…

I started on the BFI 250 greatest films this year. It's been an incredible experience so far. Lots of overlap with that list anyway.

I started with the AFI100. Obviously US-centric. As you say though about the overlap—I can of course skip those when I get to the 1001.

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#229
post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone that wants their own private "film school", can invest 10 years or so and work through the "1001 Movies to See Before You Die" [1]. It's a book compiled by several film critics as I understand it. For each of the films there's a page or two explaining the significance of the film (according to the critic that chose it for the list). My wife and I have been at it for perhaps 6 years now. We probably have 3 year…

That's a good list, but it's quite a western list. It's missing some great films from Socialist era Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, etc. If you'd like to know some of my favourites, just let me know.

Sure, please list.

FWIW, the "1001" has introduced me to a number of Czech (Obchod na korze, Sedmikrásky, Ostře sledované vlaky, Hoří, má panenko, Marketa Lazarová, Ucho) and Polish (Popiól I Diament, The Saragossa Manuscript, Człowiek z marmuru, Człowiek z żelaza) films.

I'm only up to the 1980's though, there may be a few more.

I'm not aware of having seen any Hungarian films (yet).

Re: Film students who can no longer sit through films

#230
post #118
post #14

"Many students are resisting the idea of in-person screenings altogether. Given the ease of streaming assignments from their dorm rooms, they see gathering in a campus theater as an imposition." Students telegraphing to the film world that a coming generation of consumers simply won't be going to the theatre. The article is framed as a tragedy about the students, but it's actually a tragedy about the professors and i…

I love movies but in the last 5-6 years I've only been 3 times to the theater. Dune 1, Dune 2, and Oppenheimer. Theaters in my area couldn't care less about image and sound quality. Audiences don't seem to care at all about movies. Most are either on their phones or talking. I'm not paying exorbitant prices for such sub par experience. I'd rather watch the movie at home with 4K DV on an OLED display and an Atmos setu…

I can't even remember the last time I went to the movies.

It might have been John Wick 2 or 3.

Post reply on HN