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Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by pluralmonad »

tombert wrote: post #197
deaux wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gamers generally game on PC because they like building their system. Otherwise they would use a PS5 Pro or whatever. You're making a huge assumption here. I think that's a really small percentage. Most people game on PC because certain games they like to play are only on PC, or are much better suited to PC, or because their friends are on PC, or because they want to play on the go (Steam Deck is very recent and sti…

I got into PC gaming in ~2009 primarily because it is so much cheaper than console. Steam sales and Humble Bundle allowed me to buy so many more games for less money. The initial cost upfront was higher than a console but if you want a lot of games it ends up being worth it.

And those games do not die with each or every other generation of hardware. Almost my entire Steam library still runs on my latest machine.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by JohnFen »

I'm genuinely confused about all this. Can someone help me out?

I've been buying and playing games from GOG on Linux for a very long time with no need for GOG Galaxy -- which is a thing I know nothing about. Since this announcement, I've been trying to figure out why I'd need it.

It seems like it's just a convenience application and social connection point (leaderboards, etc.). In which case, it's not something of interest to me. However, I've also seen references to Galaxy that imply that it's necessary to play games -- which is obviously untrue in general, but perhaps there are some games that require it?

Anyway, I'm tremendously confused by all this.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by craftkiller »

coryrc wrote: post #165
zombot wrote: post #154

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How is GNU/Linux different from Linux?

Android/Linux also exists.

And Chimera Linux which is GNU-less. I guess you could call it FreeBSD/Linux but I think that'll just confuse people.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by WorldMaker »

gr4vityWall wrote: post #33
EspadaV9 wrote: post #7

No. Please don't. Contribute to something like Heroic Launcher instead. Don't create something new just for GOG. Help make the existing tools better. It'll mean GOG has to do less work, and the programs people are already using will get better. Or even just sponsor Heroic so they can send more time we can working on it themselves.

Alternatively, work on developing protocols for game launchers instead. Get the Heroic Launcher devs and devs from other launchers to work on a common interface.

This comment and some of the other nearby ones have me confused if many people have actually tried GOG Galaxy?

This is one of the areas where GOG Galaxy has tried to stand out. It supports integrations with other launchers in Python: https://github.com/gogcom/galaxy-integrations-python-api

It's intended for the other direction of other launchers (or third party integrations with other launchers) feeding data to GOG Galaxy, but it's still one of the more interesting attempts in the wild of a launcher trying to be a little bit more than just a walled garden.

I don't know if in an Official Linux port of Galaxy if they'll try to find more ways to integrate beyond what they've already done with their Python API and how much they would be willing work with other launchers, especially Heroic, but of the big game stores, GOG seems one of the few that actually wants to try. Maybe they will. It would be nice to see. It's interesting seeing so many comments assume the worst of them, as someone who has played around with that Python API a little bit. (I was toying with a third-party Itch.io integration. Didn't get very far, but it was neat what seemed possible.)

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by thoughtpalette »

999900000999 wrote: post #181

I do the vast majority of my gaming on my handheld with Bazzite configured to feel like a Steam Deck. I basically don't leave the Steam UX. Valve has done such a great job here I don't see why any Linux user would consider buying games anywhere else.

What handheld do you use? I'm window shopping an upgrade from my miyoo mini.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by Night_Thastus »

JohnFen wrote: post #222

I'm genuinely confused about all this. Can someone help me out? I've been buying and playing games from GOG on Linux for a very long time with no need for GOG Galaxy -- which is a thing I know nothing about. Since this announcement, I've been trying to figure out why I'd need it. It seems like it's just a convenience application and social connection point (leaderboards, etc.). In which case, it's not something of in…

Galaxy is purely convenience. If you want to see all your games from all storefronts (Epic, Steam, GOG, etc) in one place, Galaxy lets you do that. (Along with the social stuff)

You can still play GOG games without any launcher, which is how it's intended to work.

Some people really like having a launcher to keep track of everything, so this isn't a nothing burger. It's one more convenience to help convince people to move over.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by JohnFen »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #226
JohnFen wrote: post #222

I'm genuinely confused about all this. Can someone help me out? I've been buying and playing games from GOG on Linux for a very long time with no need for GOG Galaxy -- which is a thing I know nothing about. Since this announcement, I've been trying to figure out why I'd need it. It seems like it's just a convenience application and social connection point (leaderboards, etc.). In which case, it's not something of in…

Galaxy is purely convenience. If you want to see all your games from all storefronts (Epic, Steam, GOG, etc) in one place, Galaxy lets you do that. (Along with the social stuff) You can still play GOG games without any launcher, which is how it's intended to work. Some people really like having a launcher to keep track of everything, so this isn't a nothing burger. It's one more convenience to help convince people to…

Ah, thank you very much!

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Post by kirbs »

JohnFen wrote: post #222

I'm genuinely confused about all this. Can someone help me out? I've been buying and playing games from GOG on Linux for a very long time with no need for GOG Galaxy -- which is a thing I know nothing about. Since this announcement, I've been trying to figure out why I'd need it. It seems like it's just a convenience application and social connection point (leaderboards, etc.). In which case, it's not something of in…

As far I'm aware as a casual user of Galaxy, you're correct. It's just a convenience application with some light social features.

I find it slightly more convenient when installing games on a new machine. I've never personally seen a game that required using it.

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Post by mfro »

hbn wrote: post #209
the_af wrote: post #162

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Steam with Proton is simply incredible. And now it doesn't even split games in "Linux" vs "Windows"; it simply assumes all games run on Linux. And they mostly do! Though to be fair I had to tweak a couple to make them run, and Space Marine II absolutely refuses to play past the cutscene, but most other games "just work".

God I hope Valve gets serious with Steam OS and it becomes a competitive target for PC games. They're making amazing progress with the Steam Deck, and I'm so ready to be free from Windows.

Considering the Steam Machine will come with SteamOS, it looks like they are going all in.

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Post by gamesieve »

CopperWing wrote: post #207
gamesieve wrote: post #64

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There are also a handful of games which put some additional purely cosmetic content behind an online check. That could be the start of a slippery slope, which people are justly upset about, but they then do an injustice to their cause by generalizing from those cases.

Which ones? Honest question. I only remember games for which GOG apologizes in their store page for missing cosmetics or extra features because originally tied to online services (e.g. the Mafia or Yakuza games), or ones in which they are unlocked by default for the same reason (e.g. Dragon Age Origins).

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singlep... has a full list.
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