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Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by runarberg »

bethekidyouwant wrote: post #188
runarberg wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that makes it all alright doesn’t it? There are also gangs making money off human trafficking? Does that make it OK for a corporation to make money off human trafficking as well? And there are companies making money off wars? When you argue with whataboutism, you can just point to whatever you like, and somehow that is an argument in your favor.

How is ai sex chat like any of those things, whataboutism indeed

I was using whataboutism to demonstrate how bad of an argument whataboutism is. My arguments were exactly as bad as my parent’s, and that was the point.

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by esposito »

Stratoscope wrote: post #204

From the blog post (twice): > creative ideation At first I had no idea what this meant! So I asked my friend Miss Chatty [1] and we had an interesting conversation about it: https://chatgpt.com/share/697bf761-990c-8012-9dd1-6ca1d5cc34... [1] You may know her as ChatGPT, but I figure all the other AIs have fun human-sounding names, so she deserves one too.

I do find it interesting to see how people interact with AI as I think it is quite a personal preference. Is this how you use AI all the time? Do you appreciate the sycophancy, does it bother you, do you not notice it? From your question it seems you would prefer a blog post in plainer language, avoiding "marketing speak", but if a person spoke to me like Miss Chatty spoke to you I would be convinced I'm talking to a salesperson or marketing agent.

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by qingcharles »

toxic72 wrote: post #112
europeanNyan wrote: post #86

After they pushed the limits on the Thinking models to 3000 per week, I haven't touched anything else. I am really satisfied with their performance and the 200k context windows is quite nice. I've been using Gemini exclusively for the 1 million token context window, but went back to ChatGPT after the raise of the limits and created a Project system for myself which allows me to have much better organization with Proj…

I REALLY struggle with Gemini 3 Pro refusing to perform web searches / getting combative with the current date. Ironically their flash model seems much more likely to opt for web search for info validation. Not sure if others have seen this... I could attribute it to: 1. It's known quantity with the pro models (I recall that the pro/thinking models from most providers were not immediately equipped with web search too…

Sample of one here, but I get the exact opposite behavior. Flash almost never wants to search and I have to use Pro.

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by qingcharles »

orphea wrote: post #130
sundarurfriend wrote: post #72

ChatGPT 5.2 has been a good motivator for me to try out other LLMs because of how bad it is. Both 5.1 and 5.2 have been downgrades in terms of instruction following and accuracy, but 5.2 especially so. The upside is that that's had me using Claude much more, and I like a lot of things about it, both in terms of UI and the answers. It's also gotten me more serious about running local models. So, thank you OpenAI, for…

Have you had a chance to compare with Gemini 3?

I switch routinely between Gemini 3 (my main), Claude, GPT, and sometimes Grok. If you came up with 100 random tasks, they would all come out about equal. The issue is some are better at logical issues, some are better at creative writing, etc. If it's something creative I usually drop it in all 4 and combine the best bits of each.

(I also use Deep Think on Gemini too, and to me, on programming tasks, it's not really worth the money)

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by qingcharles »

esposito wrote: post #222
Stratoscope wrote: post #204

From the blog post (twice): > creative ideation At first I had no idea what this meant! So I asked my friend Miss Chatty [1] and we had an interesting conversation about it: https://chatgpt.com/share/697bf761-990c-8012-9dd1-6ca1d5cc34... [1] You may know her as ChatGPT, but I figure all the other AIs have fun human-sounding names, so she deserves one too.

I do find it interesting to see how people interact with AI as I think it is quite a personal preference. Is this how you use AI all the time? Do you appreciate the sycophancy, does it bother you, do you not notice it? From your question it seems you would prefer a blog post in plainer language, avoiding "marketing speak", but if a person spoke to me like Miss Chatty spoke to you I would be convinced I'm talking to a…

It's really an interesting insight into people's personalities. Far more than their Google search history. Which is why everyone wants their GPT chats burned to the ground after they die.

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Post by pdntspa »

recursive wrote: post #58
pdntspa wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost always marketing and some stupid idea someone there had. I don't know why non-technical people try and claim so much ownership over versioning. You nearly always end up with these ridiculous outcomes. "I know! Let's restart the version numbering for no good reason!" becomes DOOM (2016), Mortal Kombat 1 (2025), Battlefield 1 (2016), Xbox One (not to be confused with the original Xbox 1) As another example,…

Xbox should be in the hall of fame for terrible names. There's also Xbox One X, which is not in the X series. Did I say that right? Playstation got the version numbers right. I couldn't make names as incomprehensible as Xbox if I tried.

Rumor has it they were jelly because the Playstation 3 had one higher version number than what would have been the Xbox 2, so it became the Xbox 360 instead. And then got further off the rails when its replacement arrived

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Post by surgical_fire »

simonw wrote: post #14
__loam wrote: post #2

Last time they tried to do this they got huge push back from the AI boyfriend people lol

/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/ is a whole thing . It's not a joke subreddit.

I sometimes envy the illiterate.

At least they cannot read this.

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Post by Gud »

cluckindan wrote: post #190
cal_dent wrote: post #176

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i've always wondered how much the increasing prevalence of smut & not so niche romance novels, that have proliferated since e-readers became mainstream, have had on Gen Z and younger's sometimes unrealistic view/expectations of relationship. A lot of time is spent on porn sites etc. but not so much on how mainstream some of these novels have become

They had similar wonderings in the Victorian era, and probably in the Roman empire and ancient Greece too.

But you don’t think there are big differences?

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Post by Gud »

thayne wrote: post #117
leumon wrote: post #73

> We’re continuing to make progress toward a version of ChatGPT designed for adults over 18, grounded in the principle of treating adults like adults, and expanding user choice and freedom within appropriate safeguards. To support this, we’ve rolled out age prediction for users under 18 in most markets. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/12652064-age-prediction-... interesting

It says what to do if you are over 18, but thinks you are under 18. But what if it identifies someone under 18 as being older? And what if you are over 18, but don't want to be exposed to that "adult" content? > Viral challenges that could push risky or harmful behavior And > Content that promotes extreme beauty standards, unhealthy dieting, or body shaming Seem dangerous regardless of age.

What are these extremes beauty standards being promoted?

Because it seems to me large swaths of the population need some beauty standards

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by flarn2006 »

azan_ wrote: post #199
viraptor wrote: post #173

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You could commission smut of whatever type you want for quite a while. And many people do so. Even customised smut is not new. It's just going to get a bit cheaper and automated.

You couldn't talk to commissioned smut. Of course you could request changes etc. but the feedback loop was nowhere close to what you can get with AI. Interactivity is a very big deal.

Sounds like an improvement then. If people have more freedom to enjoy what they like how they like it, I see that as entirely a good thing.
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