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Our approach to age prediction

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Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Do not give your biometric & photos of ID's or videos of your face to these companies. Nether to third-parties. The potential failure modes here are very high risk and not worth it. Better to unsubscribe and let them know why.

Often you can't let them now. Recent experience of me canceling yet another American service due to the latest war mongering showed me that. I did get offered a discount in the cancelation flow, but nowhere could I have given a custom reason of my cancelation. They'll never know.

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Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Hard no. It's so easy to get "flagged" by opaque systems for "Age verification" processes or account lockouts that require giving far too much PII to a company like this for my liking. > Users who are incorrectly placed in the under-18 experience will always have a fast, simple way to confirm their age and restore their full access with a selfie through Persona, a secure identity-verification service. Yea, my linkedi…

Yeah I have had a linkedin account since forever and am over 50 and linkedin still occasionally gives me the “since you are a teen…” screen. What kind of teen is on linkedin anyway?

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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> simple way to confirm their age and restore their full access with a selfie through Persona, a secure identity-verification service The normalization of identity verification to use internet services is itself a problem. It's described much better than I could by EFF here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/01/so-youve-hit-age-gate-...

The EFF are fighting a losing battle: > we hope we’ll win in getting existing ones overturned and new ones prevented. All the momentum is in the other direction and not slowing down. There are valid privacy concerns, but, buried in this very article, the EFF admit that it’s possible to do age-gating in a privacy-preserving way: > it’s possible to only reveal your age information when you use a digital ID. If you’re g…

The fight is not just about privacy, it is about freedom. Age-gating websites violates the freedom of people who are under a certain age. Young people have the same rights to free expression and information access as anyone else.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Yes, it listed a few of my past questions as reference points. I had asked some questions about Nintendo 64/Dreamcast and Gamecube games. It also used information I had asked it about programming languages and some work-related questions to guess my age. I don't know how OpenAI plans to do this going forward, just quickly read the article and figured that might be a good question to ask ChatGPT. Edit: I just followed…

Age is a must. Gender is too easy. You know what the problem is? These systems know your ethnicity and religion.

I would assume that it would be able to make those assumptions based on the questions you ask it, but OpenAI would never allow an LLM to answer those types of inquiries. That would obviously cross some boundaries.

I find it strange that having it assume your age isn't off limits - according to the article, it's about to become a major feature.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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I just asked ChatGPT. "Based on everything I've asked, how old do you think I am?" It was dead-on with its answer. It guessed 30-35. I'm 32. That was just a spur-of-the-moment question. I've been using ChatGPT for over six months now.

>It was dead-on with its answer. It guessed 30-35. I'm 32. Horoscopes must feel like literal magic to you.

I'm not familiar with Horoscopes.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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I prefer dumb phones, and then prefer to not have to carry one 24/7. Device lock-in is a whole other discussion. Why can't phones be switched off anyhow in terms of telco signal? Yet their Wifi and Bluetooth can be. Weird. What are they doing in stealth? Look how cheap x402 transactions are (ie almost free) https://gemini.google.com/share/cbf1adb1570c It's a new thing - have business models adapted accordingly?

"source" of an LLM chat https://www.x402.org/ >AI agent sends HTTP request and receives 402: Payment Required >AI agent pays instantly with stablecoins Smells like a weird ad to me.

Well, I was thinking of integrating payments into the scrolling chat, the more you scroll down, the more payment increments you hit. It happens in the background, and there can be a tally somewhere on the screen of how much you are spending. Also, compute usage can be used as a multiplier.

More is written about it here: "https://gemini.google.com/share/6113940b8e1e "What are the best examples of x402 payments being made currently?"

From what I've read on HN, running advertising technology is an expensive and complex undertaking. I'd be trying to skip it altogether and keep the subsequent costs, intrusions and headaches away from users.

The other good thing about micropayments: being able to instantly divert some of the revenue back to content and training sources. That'd make it more righteous too and make it more conducive to cooperation from them (eg realtime pings.) Content will improve as a result, better justifying the costs. Could lead to less bot rampage too lowering bandwidth costs overall.

It'd also remove the temptation (hopefully) for AI companies to resort to black-hatting: scamming, backdoors and trojans to recoup their costs. That's seriously important and code-checking can become less of a priority and thereby result in time-saving for end users.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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I think compulsory 2FA and the trend towards must-have downloadable phone apps is a problem, but that may not be fully evident... yet. In my experience, being tied to a phone and phone number is a problem. Also, when you carry your phone, your funds are at risk too from tech-jacking (as opposed to car-jacking) .. especially with crypto, right? "I keep a cheap travel eSim plan active on it so that if I am somewhere sk…

So now instead of carrying a phone around with you to make a call, you want to carry around a laptop? Again, your use case is not a business model. What next bring back pay phones?

I'd be more inclined to carry around a smartphone if everything about it was open-source and based on open standards. It's just another networked computer, really.
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