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Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Re: Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Post by coolewurst »

rendall wrote: post #193
Kelteseth wrote: post #11

Let's hope you Americans will vote for the right party in the upcoming midterms. And let's hope you will even get the chance to do so.

There is no right party, unfortunately. The Duopoly of Democrats and Republicans rely on this illusory idea of "the other side" to maintain a stranglehold on power for both parties. The sooner we give up that idea that one side is better than the other, the sooner we can hold "both sides" accountable. The Democrats are an absolutely corrupt shit show. As are the Republicans. Each expansion of executive power is treat…

I think that's a false equivalent.

No Democrat president threatened to take over Greenland or took another head of state hostage without precedent.

Yes, they are corrupt and warmongers, but not nearly as harmful as the current Republican party.

Re: Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Post by simonsarris »

matsemann wrote: post #147

Can't Denmark just stop selling ozempic or so to the US? Would be an uproar in no time.

Eli Lilly has GLP-1 injectables and will have an oral pill this year. Novo Nordisk has already dropped that ball.

Hence Eli Lilly +40% in the last year and Novo -23%. Or on a longer timescale you can see the problem:

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/NVO:NYSE?sa=X&sqi=2&ved...

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Post by jonkoops »

azan_ wrote: post #105

The only way for Europe forward is actual federalization. Unfortunately right wing parties will never let it happen so entire Europe is doomed to become marginalized by China and US.

Indeed, petty national topics that are used to create fake polarization against Brussels, is what is keeping us from realizing the federation we so desperately need. I am so tired of the endless, unbased right-wing arguments from nationalists against the EU, which only exist to distract from their own incompetencies.

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Post by fritzorino »

murderfs wrote: post #218
matsemann wrote: post #147

Can't Denmark just stop selling ozempic or so to the US? Would be an uproar in no time.

Sure, it could blow up its economy and have the U.S. just switch to the existing domestic alternative, which also appears to be superior (tirzepatide).

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Post by ceejayoz »

treetalker wrote: post #128
deadbabe wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can’t. It’s over. Laws don’t mean anything anymore. Even if we had a full democratic congress, they would just be ignored. The Trump administration has already been grooming people to accept congress is useless, beginning with the month long shutdown. And the Supreme Courts will just go along with whatever the president wants now. Start preparing for the post-American world.

If the Senate convicted, things would change. For one thing, I'm confident the military would not consider an impeached and convicted president as its commander in chief. And the prospect of the consequences of continuing to side with such a one would largely evaporate the availability of the administrative apparatus. Civil war would be a possible result, sure. But I disagree that such a Congress would simply be igno…

> I'm confident the military would not consider an impeached and convicted president as its commander in chief.

The same ones currently blowing up shipwrecked survivors in the water in the Caribbean? A literal textbook example of a war crime? I’m not.

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Post by torlok »

adventured wrote: post #174
torlok wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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"We'll see how long the US economy is going to last when it can't even fund its own government." This is fantasy thinking, projection of a subjective wish. The dollar is the global reserve currency and is under no serious threat to be displaced (and no, the dollar dropping back to where it was a couple of years ago vs the Euro, is not a meaningful event). The US economy is by far the world's largest and now dwarfs th…

Europe survived 2 devastating home wars in the last 100 years, a lot of it was under Soviet occupation, and has smaller natural deposits. The US economy is being propped-up by cheap credit and blitzscaling of tech, and the money is running out. Those companies have to start making money, and the european market is critical to that. The rest of the US market is stagnant at best. The US consumer market is being held up by the top 10% of spenders. The real US economy is disconnected from the stock market and GDP. The average US consumer is weak, and the US is not going to last a trade war with EU and China. Meanwhile the EU signing trade deals.

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Post by drysine »

alibarber wrote: post #210
drysine wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>holds a substantial share of US deb That's the EU's problem, not Trump's)

A mass selloff of US bonds will mean that the US can’t sell any more - because the market is suddenly flooded with bonds at a ‘discount’. This means that the US can’t take on any more debt (borrow money) Why would you pay the US $10 when you can get the same thing from France for $8? Or the US then has to issue bonds with massively inflated returns - i.e. pay a much higher interest rate.

>This means that the US can’t take on any more debt (borrow money)

They can literally print them

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