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Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Lol Trump can't understand that he can't charge tariffs to an specific EU country. He is a big moron and his voters the little morons.

Nevermind, I hope he changes his mind and set a 1000% instead 10 so we can broke relations with such a stupid government. USA is following steps that Germany already took and its citizens are responsible of its crimes.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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post #45

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Well he's been impeached twice (then acquitted) already, so this one will not really mean the end for him.

True - but by impeached I meant actually removed from power.

Conviction requires 2/3 of the Senate. It's not happening.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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post #78

My impression as a European is that trust in the United States has now been burned, and that companies are slowly, but inexorably, completely rethinking their dependence on the U.S. I believe this is a process that is not reversible in the medium term. Trump, like any politician, will sooner or later pass. How many institutional reforms will the United States have to undertake, and how long will it take before the wo…

This is correct. Our company (about 40 people in the engineering team) just did a painful move from homegrown orchestration of EC2 instances to containerized ECS/Fargate.

We will now move to some form of "pure" EU-hosted K8s. No more AWS. I bet we will end up saving lots of money too.

Kubernetes was always the next step. We just didn't know the trigger would be the US going _this_ hostile.

Our marketing director chipped in and thinks it will be worth quite a lot if we can show/say that our service is completely independent of the US - but she wants to say it more diplomatically - exactly how is tbd. I disagree. We should just write it out loud and be proud about it. We'll see.

Perhaps: "We work and live in X land. We run all of services in X land, in facilities owned by people living in X land.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Leftists wanted her to not be a dog shit politician in order for her to win, they were screaming for her to embrace real substantive policy positions and not business as usual, corrupt, liberal elitism. The same leftists are now in the street protecting communities from the gastapo, while liberals debate about which words they can say. It were those exact liberal politics that lost Hillary the election too, and then…

I just don't understand the perspective that Trump is a historical threat and therefore we can't accept business as usual. I have a number of disagreements with the status quo myself, but I'm not going to pursue them until Trump is out of power, because I want to absolutely minimize the number of people who feel they have to choose between supporting Trump and abandoning some principle of theirs. To me, any other str…

But your lukewarm candidates lost twice, Hillary lost, Kamala lost. The point we are making is that they lost, because they are lukewarm. There is a reason Trump won in the first place you are ignoring, you are ignoring the times of unprecedented grievances that people have, people want real change. Trump represents that change to people, a fascist lie and scapegoating of course, but you are representing the comfortable elite under whom nothing will ever change for the better for anyone. All you have is complain about leftists, we didn't loose, you lost twice. Dems are more unpopular than ever, even now under fucking Trump, your politics are dogshit and you don't have anybody else to blame for it.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't understand the perspective that Trump is a historical threat and therefore we can't accept business as usual. I have a number of disagreements with the status quo myself, but I'm not going to pursue them until Trump is out of power, because I want to absolutely minimize the number of people who feel they have to choose between supporting Trump and abandoning some principle of theirs. To me, any other str…

But your lukewarm candidates lost twice, Hillary lost, Kamala lost. The point we are making is that they lost, because they are lukewarm. There is a reason Trump won in the first place you are ignoring, you are ignoring the times of unprecedented grievances that people have, people want real change. Trump represents that change to people, a fascist lie and scapegoating of course, but you are representing the comforta…

I don't represent or subscribe to what you think! I agree that both of them were weak candidates who lost where a better candidate could have won, and I myself have been growing away from the Democratic party ever since the 2016 primary.

What I cannot agree with, what I find completely unacceptable, is the idea that any dispute over candidate quality can justify splintering the anti-Trump coalition. If Bernie were the 2024 candidate, I assure you I would have even harsher words for any business types who ran around complaining about him.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Europe waking up would even be good for the US long term. The US has coasted on success and grown fat on lack of competition.

"Things are going to be so much better when we needlessly make them shittier." WTF Americans. We will do anything to just be chill with this crap. I don't know about you, but in school when I was lazy and waited for the last minute and did my work purely out of pressure I did not, in fact, do better work, and got worse outcomes (a worse grade than I normally got).

>> Europe waking up would even be good for the US long term.

> "Things are going to be so much better when we needlessly make them shittier."

I don’t think Europe becoming more competitive would make things shittier at all. Why do you think that?

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

#230

I wish Europe would just push back. More than what they are currently. There is so much potential there, but somehow the EU all look at the US as some form of idealogical father figure. Excuse the hyperbolic-talk.

The EU has a huge strategic problem because they let their own defenses and industry rot for decades and can't functionally stand alone against Russia, US pressure, and Chinese economic infiltration / industrial replacement at the same time. At least, not without great sacrifices the population isn't willing to make, like pension reform. So they are playing gentle with the US because it's the least bad choice right n…

> The EU has a huge strategic problem because they let their own defenses and industry rot for decades

They also have a long history of being able to ramp it up quickly if necessary.

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